I've been making bread for decades so I think I'm reasonably good at kneading by now. But I wonder how bread-makers fare when it comes to those really wet French bread types doughs? I've made these by hand and it isn't easy. You have to have loads of confidence to slap the sticky dough repeatedly onto the surface. I don't think a bread machine could cope with that. Somewhere I've got a bookmark for a video of a master baker demonstrating this technique, in case you don't know what I mean. I'll try to hunt it out.