Foods which can be poisonous

[karadekoolaid]

[Mod.Edit: Posts moved to form a new thread (MG)]

Nutmeg is still a big no though.
Perhaps someone has a recipe where it works when used very sparingly?
I would like to like it.
Maybe as it is poisonous your body somehow knows to reject it?

Nutmeg contains myristicin, which is a hallucinogenic when consumed in large quantities, but you'd have to consume 3 or 4 whole nutmegs if you want to get high (or rushed to hospital!)
Cinnamon, cloves and tonka beans all contain varying amounts of coumarin, which can be used medically , as a blood thinner, or as rat poison, since it's an anticoagulant. Tonka beans have the highest concentration.
Evidently excessive consumption of these spices would probably cause harm, but generally speaking, they're only used in minute quantities because of their potent flavour profiles. One or two cloves in an apple pie are delicious; put 20 in there and the pie will be inedible. Tonka beans are highly aromatic, reminiscent of vanilla, and are used over here in sweets, cakes and chocolate. A few shavings are enough to perfume the final product.
I use nutmeg in garam masala, in lots of Indian dishes, in Indonesian dishes (the fruit originated in the Indonesian Moluccas), with cauliflower cheese and with a bechamel sauce.

 

[TastyReuben]

Evidently excessive consumption of these spices would probably cause harm, but generally speaking, they're only used in minute quantities because of their potent flavour profiles.

In reading about saffron for a previous challenge, I found that there’s a toxicity issue with that as well.

 

[JAS_OH1]

In reading about saffron for a previous challenge, I found that there’s a toxicity issue with that as well.

That would be a very expensive overdose...

 

[SandwichShortOfAPicnic]

Nutmeg contains myristicin, which is a hallucinogenic when consumed in large quantities, but you'd have to consume 3 or 4 whole nutmegs if you want to get high (or rushed to hospital!)
Cinnamon, cloves and tonka beans all contain varying amounts of coumarin, which can be used medically , as a blood thinner, or as rat poison, since it's an anticoagulant. Tonka beans have the highest concentration.
Evidently excessive consumption of these spices would probably cause harm, but generally speaking, they're only used in minute quantities because of their potent flavour profiles. One or two cloves in an apple pie are delicious; put 20 in there and the pie will be inedible. Tonka beans are highly aromatic, reminiscent of vanilla, and are used over here in sweets, cakes and chocolate. A few shavings are enough to perfume the final product.
I use nutmeg in garam masala, in lots of Indian dishes, in Indonesian dishes (the fruit originated in the Indonesian Moluccas), with cauliflower cheese and with a bechamel sauce.

When I did my rather scary mental health placements they told me that the exact quantities that induce psychosis vary wildly from one person to another and some people are very sensitive to neurotoxic substances, less than a teaspoon can be enough.
Of course there are many mental health patients with drug induced psychosis or depression that will eat or drink absolutely anything that carries the promise of getting out of their skull even if it will permanently damage or even kill them so we had to learn the everyday substances to be on the look out for.

But I more meant that some animals naturally shy away from potential food sources that are poisonous to their species and perhaps some humans are like that with certain toxic substances

When I see nutmeg listed as an ingredient in Indian cooking I generally make a cursory swipe across the grater and if the tiniest bit of dust falls into the dish then thats plenty

 

[SandwichShortOfAPicnic]

In reading about saffron for a previous challenge, I found that there’s a toxicity issue with that as well.

I read that too

 

[JAS_OH1]

But I more meant that some animals naturally shy away from potential food sources that are poisonous to their species and perhaps some humans are like that with certain toxic substances

When I see nutmeg listed as an ingredient in Indian cooking I generally make a cursory swipe across the grater and if the tiniest bit of dust falls into the dish then thats plenty

I think primitive man just basically watched what the animals were eating--which really was a bad move when it came to some birds that could eat poisonous berries without getting sick and dying.

 

[SandwichShortOfAPicnic]

I think primitive man just basically watched what the animals were eating--which really was a bad move when it came to some birds that could eat poisonous berries without getting sick and dying.

What always fascinated me is the foods that are poisonous raw or unprocessed that are fine if cooked or treated a certain way.
Just for example Cashews. How exactly was that discovered?
Urr John, you know that cashew stuff you got Bert to eat? Well he's dead.
Oh ok well I've cooked them now so I reckon they'll be ok, here try some.
Urr think I'll pass on that John I don't fancy ending up like Bert.

I mean who went oh yeah great if you're sure the puffer fish is safe now you cut that bit out I'm bang up for trying it

 

[JAS_OH1]

What always fascinated me is the foods that are poisonous raw or unprocessed that are fine if cooked or treated a certain way.
Just for example Cashews. How exactly was that discovered?
Urr John, you know that cashew stuff you got Bert to eat? Well he's dead.
Oh ok well I've cooked them now so I reckon they'll be ok, here try some.
Urr think I'll pass on that John I don't fancy ending up like Bert.

I mean who went oh yeah great if you're sure the puffer fish is safe now you cut that bit out I'm bang up for trying it

I guess they had to go through a lot of death to find these things out. Very odd. Probably some Japanese emperor on the puffer fish thing...just a guess. Oh lord, I feel a Google rabbit hole looming in my near future...

 

[TastyReuben]

I think primitive man just basically watched what the animals were eating--which really was a bad move when it came to some birds that could eat poisonous berries without getting sick and dying.

It’s Star Trek’s Way to Eden all over again!

 

[SandwichShortOfAPicnic]

I guess they had to go through a lot of death to find these things out. Very odd. Probably some Japanese emperor on the puffer fish thing...just a guess. Oh lord, I feel a Google rabbit hole looming in my near future...

People in Japan still shuffle off the mortal coil via a puffer fish exit every year.
I have had it. At a Japanese restaurant up a mountain in Canada of all places.
I wasn't taken with it, I remember it being surprisingly slimy and politely eating it because I'd ordered it rather than because I was enjoying it.

Poor ol' TR prolly would have upchucked

 

[TastyReuben]

Poor ol' TR prolly would have upchucked

I would not have gotten myself in that position in the first place!

 

[JAS_OH1]

I would not have gotten myself in that position in the first place!

'Twould have never passed thine lips, eh?

 

[JAS_OH1]

People in Japan still shuffle off the mortal coil via a puffer fish exit every year.
I have had it. At a Japanese restaurant up a mountain in Canada of all places.
I wasn't taken with it, I remember it being surprisingly slimy and politely eating it because I'd ordered it rather than because I was enjoying it.

Poor ol' TR prolly would have upchucked

He would have turned green just looking at it, if someone else at the table had ordered it he would probably be running for the men's room (or the exit).

 

[SandwichShortOfAPicnic]

He would have turned green just looking at it, if someone else at the table had ordered it he would probably be running for the men's room (or the exit).

Well it was so unappetising that at one point I felt the threat of chunder so sat at another table would have been the only safe option

 

[TastyReuben]

'Twould have never passed thine lips, eh?

‘Twould have never passed through the door!