Going Vegan

@morning glory & @MypinchofItaly & @Cinisajoy,

Ladies,

Well, I could not help chuckling a bit here ..

1) @morning glory I totally understand your views regarding your space, Morning Glory. This is a complicated situation. Creating a variety of menus is very time consuming and being a Vegan requires a vegetable type protein source. I believe, you can manage to cook some things that are usable for the whole family. Lentils, quinoa, couscous, pasta, risotto and of course vegetables & serve yourself and your partner with meat or fish or chicken etcetra on the side.

You have to organise if you do not wish to have him in your space creating a hurricane !!

2) @Cinisajoy : This is complicated because there is no team effort here.

I am uncertain why an adult woman is not working .. This is number 1.

I believe you need to speak (seriously and effectively ) to her father and discuss his input about positive solutions and motivating her to find a job.

By using negative expressions and brushing the dust back under the bed, is not working !!

Teamwork is a postiive here, in assisting her to find positive solutions to a real problem, a decent job ! Why is she not looking for a job ? Perhaps, helping her with her Resume or Curriculum Vitae as we call it in Europe, and sitting down with her on the internet to look for Jobs that fit her profile ..

Being supportive, may be the key to changing her attitude .. Not only from your side, but her dad too !!!!!!!

3) @MypinchofItaly : I have always been very Pescatarian even as a child. I eat alot of vegetables & legumes however, I have lived my life on a Mediterrean diet, and thus, I have no interest in changing that .. and neither does my husband .. Nor the rest the of family. It is way too limiting for us .. We enjoy our lives just as is ..

Have a good evening ..
It is 23. 10 ..
 
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Francesca said:
@morning glory I believe, you can manage to cook some things that are usable for the whole family. Lentils, quinoa, couscous, pasta, risotto and of course vegetables
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Of course! What do you think I've been doing for the last five days? :D

Tonight: Mung beans, aubergine, sweet potato, spinach.

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@Francesca,
She didn't get her dream job and daddy is more than willing to support her so she refuses to get off her lazy butt except to walk to the library.
Her older brother even had a job lined up for her with transportation and she couldn't be bothered to even make a phone call.
 
I don't mind eating vegetarian or even vegan food (as you've probably noticed from most of the recipes I post), but there is no way I could give up meat altogether. After my last inpatient stay, the dietitian at the hospital told me to eat a little meat 2 or 3 times a week to get my strength up, and I still eat meat once or twice a week - usually lamb or chicken. Most of the meals I eat these days are either eastern European, Middle Eastern or Indian (etc) in origin with a bit of Mediterranean thrown in. Meat takes up less than 10% of my fridge and freezer space, and even then some of that is for the mutt. Most of the fruit, vegetables and dairy I eat are organic - the extra expense is worth it for the freshness of the food.

I could not envisage sharing a kitchen with anyone. My kitchen is 18 ft x 10 ft and I can quite easily use up all the worktops when I'm cooking. However, I would love to be let loose in my daughter's kitchen - it's far bigger than the total ground floor of my whole house - in fact, I could probably move all my stuff in there and still have room to spare. And, before you all drool, the rest of her house is still a building site - one of the joys of buying a derelict house and working full-time while doing it up yourself.
 
Cinisajoy said:
@Francesca,
She didn't get her dream job and daddy is more than willing to support her so she refuses to get off her lazy butt except to walk to the library.
Her older brother even had a job lined up for her with transportation and she couldn't be bothered to even make a phone call.
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@Cinisajoy

Sorry to hear .. Truly sad that a Young woman has no professional goals to better her own life and a work place is also a wonderful opportunity to build relationships with both men and women ..

I believe you really need to speak to your husband, and / or a therapist to see what solutions are viable to solving the problems .. If she is living with you, I can see you have your hands full .. Does she live with her dad ? This might be a better option and surely he will change his mind too !
 
morning glory said:
I came back from a short break a few days ago to discover that my youngest son (age 27) who lives here has decided to become vegan. My youngest daughter (29) who also lives here is a pescatarian - that is, she is vegetarian but eats fish. She also eats eggs and dairy. My partner will eat most things as will I.

Now, as some of you will know, my main interest is in cooking and recipe development (and food photography). I really don't want to become a specialist vegan cook - I cook vegetarian about three to four times a week and sometimes these recipe 'happen' to be vegan. But the idea of cooking without eggs and dairy all the time I'm finding too limiting and frankly a bit depressing.

I don't eat much at all and I don't tend to eat the meat dishes I cook. Until now, my son and partner have eaten those and my daughter has an alternative version. Now it is hardly worth me buying and cooking meat - since my partner will be the only one who eats it!

I expect it I will find a way around this - but at the moment I'm finding it hard to adapt.

I suspect that we don't actually have any active vegan members. @SatNavSaysStraightOn is veggan so eggs are included. If only my son would include eggs!

So - how would you feel about the prospect of cooking vegan everyday?
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I wouldn't have the will or desire.
 
Huge! Mine is 4ft 3 by 10-ft 3. My worktop is 2ft by 2ft and that houses the chopping board and kettle. There is an arch to the dining room so I do use the dining table a lot just to put things. I'm getting used to it slowing but really miss the space and being used to restricting myself to one gadget at a time, or doing all prep first rather than some as I go along.
 
Herbie said:
Huge! Mine is 4ft 3 by 10-ft 3. My worktop is 2ft by 2ft and that houses the chopping board and kettle. There is an arch to the dining room so I do use the dining table a lot just to put things. I'm getting used to it slowing but really miss the space and being used to restricting myself to one gadget at a time, or doing all prep first rather than some as I go along.
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2ft by 2ft is an impossibly small work surface! It reminds me of The Little Paris Kitchen (TV cookery series).
 
Francesca said:
@Cinisajoy

Sorry to hear .. Truly sad that a Young woman has no professional goals to better her own life and a work place is also a wonderful opportunity to build relationships with both men and women ..

I believe you really need to speak to your husband, and / or a therapist to see what solutions are viable to solving the problems .. If she is living with you, I can see you have your hands full .. Does she live with her dad ? This might be a better option and surely he will change his mind too !
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She lives with her father not me. So it appears to be partially his doing.
 
My son is only 13 and has already been told that when he graduates high scholl, he has a year to choose between a university, joining the military, or working and paying rent to continue to live with us.

My father did that with me, and I tried but failed at college, avoided the military (which I regret now), and ended up working and paying rent. That quickly made me go to night school, and I got a job in my industry by the time I was 21. 2 quick job changes later, and this is my 30th year at my company.

But getting back to vegan cooking, if my son wanted to eat that way, we would just make more veggies with our regular meals, and he would be welcome to that. I doubt it would take long for him to want to expand his diet and start cooking extra things for himself.
 
morning glory said:
To me that is ENORMOUS!
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The houses were built with hallway which went from the front door to the back door, rooms on the right, cupboards and stairs on the left, so the kitchen is really the old kitchen plus the old hallway and the larder knocked into one big room with a repositioned old-kitchen door. We did the same with the front room, so we have one large living room but kept the cupboard in that room as it is only small. Some people on our estate have knocked down the wall between the front room and the kitchen too. When they were still council houses, my friend and her husband (who had five children) built a wooden extension with a large kitchen-diner downstairs and two more bedrooms upstairs (they were originally two-bedroomed houses), with council permission. When they moved into a four-bedroomed house, that extension was demolished. The only clue is that you can still see traces of the door upstairs which led to the extension if you look carefully! My two bedrooms became three with a bit of juggling - the smallest room is now my library :D, although even that is bigger than some box-rooms.
 
buckytom said:
My son is only 13 and has already been told that when he graduates high scholl, he has a year to choose between a university, joining the military, or working and paying rent to continue to live with us.

My father did that with me, and I tried but failed at college, avoided the military (which I regret now), and ended up working and paying rent. That quickly made me go to night school, and I got a job in my industry by the time I was 21. 2 quick job changes later, and this is my 30th year at my company.

But getting back to vegan cooking, if my son wanted to eat that way, we would just make more veggies with our regular meals, and he would be welcome to that. I doubt it would take long for him to want to expand his diet and start cooking extra things for himself.
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My daughter was itching to leave school at 16 but was told in no uncertain terms that she had to stay on at school in the sixth form until she found a job. Six weeks after going back to school, she left for a job as office junior in a local solicitors office, and six months after that she was working in a bank. She worked at various branches of that bank for about 25 years in total, ending up as a mortgage advisor, before leaving and becoming a maths teacher.
 
Elawin said:
My daughter was itching to leave school at 16 but was told in no uncertain terms that she had to stay on at school in the sixth form until she found a job. Six weeks after going back to school, she left for a job as office junior in a local solicitors office, and six months after that she was working in a bank. She worked at various branches of that bank for about 25 years in total, ending up as a mortgage advisor, before leaving and becoming a maths teacher.
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She is probably a very good teacher. Those with life experience first, who become teachers later in life, always end up being the best.

One of my close friends (the guy with the yacht) was an investment banker for 20 years before becoming an English Lit. teacher to the most difficult students with learning and violence issues. No one knew literature and teaching were his secret passions. And he has the cajones based on his life earned wisdom to handle tough "clients".
 
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