Super Bowl attendees had to show proof of vaccination. Masks were suggested, but not required.
I wear a mask indoors in public. Nothing political. I'm just being a little extra careful for me, and those around me.
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Super Bowl attendees had to show proof of vaccination. Masks were suggested, but not required.
I wear a mask indoors in public. Nothing political. I'm just being a little extra careful for me, and those around me.
CD
ThatDude
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But unfortunately, those with COVID can't smell what The Rock is cooking.
garlichead
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Ok, I was reading that masks where required.
Super Bowl’s mask-free celebrities spark renewed call for rethinking LA County mandates
garlichead
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I meant to ask, 45% is really low. Any particular reason why that is? The world knows vaccinations reduce mortality by a large margin, so it really doesn't make any sense, to me.
Jimmy Kimmel mentioned on his show that Los Angeles Covid rules are confusing, because LA County and The City of LA aren't on the same page, not to mention the State of California has different rules, too. It is my understanding that the Super Bowl did not have a mask requirement. Certainly, none was enforced, and if a rule isn't enforced, is it really a rule?
CD
Demographics. Politics. His county is rather rural, and rather Red, from comments he has made in the past.
The same is true here in Texas. My county is above average for vaccinations.
When you get into the rural counties, those numbers go down considerably.
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garlichead
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I just picked one of the very many that were available regarding SoFi Stadium to read. Definitely not enforced that's for sure and I suspect people really didn't care because all that was needed apparently for the mask restrictions to be lifted was a 7 day consecutive reduction in hospitalization and as of super bowl Sunday, which was the 5th day and they were lifted mask mandates today Wednesday because Tuesday was the 7th straight day of acceptable reductions. Personally I wouldn't have worn a mask either.
garlichead
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Yeah, being Ohio I thought it might be because it's rural. The unfortunate part of that scenario is eventually Omicron will reach those rural areas. If those 45% are mostly older then the consequences won't be as bad, but I suspect any rural area where covid 19 has been light will experience some kind of increase or spike eventually or at least that's what's been disclosed around the world regarding that particular scenario.
I think you may have meant red/conservative…which we definitely are, and that’s the driving force, for the most part.
We mirror a lot of the larger movement, in that our anti-vaxxers seem to fall into three groups:
1. I’m younger, therefore I’m not at risk
2. It’s no worse than the flu, and it’s killing the economy
3. It hasn’t been tested/it’s Bill Gates’ population control plan/it’ll make my pecker shrivel up/conspiracy du jour
garlichead
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Right, those are popular. The third one is pretty funny, even though of course there are risks to any medication, but I don't think anyone's pecker is going to fall off lol. Risk is never really talked about by anyone in Canada or in the US from what I've ever seen. For example in the US 94% of all deaths from covid 19 are from people 50 and up but the lions share are the 65 and up. 17 and under the risk is around 0.09%. I also read from the CDC website a while back that age-related comorbidities was the driving force and COVID-19 deaths were mostly associated with at least 1 comorbidity with 2 to 4 being the average and a very small percentage of death with 0 comorbidities for those age group. Keeping the older population safe is an understatement, but we knew that 1 month after it started back in early 2020. It would be nice if there was some kind of calculator to assess our individual risks. Personally I'm not too worried but most here are it seems and the polls show that as well.
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Another thing to keep in mind is that anyone who gets Covid is less likely to pass it on if they are vaccinated. Young people who spend any time with elderly people should get vaccinated for grandma's sake, if not for their own.
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garlichead
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Yes that true, but it's complicated. It has to do with viral load, and being vaccinated doesn't lessen that load, both the vaccinated and unvaccinated will be infected with the same load but in vaccinated people these levels rapidly diminish, which means less people get infected overall but it has nothing to do with vaccinated people spread covid less, it's just time sensitive. To complicate it even more when you have a high vaccination rate like say in Ontario where I live where 90% have been double vaxxed 75% of the hospitalizations are the vaccinated and right now and we have slightly more vaccinated people in ICU 55/45, which basically supports the data that the unvaccinated are more likely to end up in the ICU on a percentage basis. Cheers.
garlichead
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This is a tough one, and in my opinion we've basically mixed up our priorities regarding children and covid and what is good for their health. Early on it was assumed that everyone spreads covid if they get it, including children. There's other questions that need to be answered before we can make this leap without any random controlled studies (RCT) that can verify for certain.
The vast majority of children are asymptomatic, like almost all children. So another question that has been of interest from the very beginning was if a person is asymptomatic do they spread covid the same. Early the answer was yes, but that has changed. The CDC talks about presymptomatic, symptomatic and asymptomatic back last April I think and basically came to the conclusion that asymptomatic people are unlikely, and I like that language because some of the actual study showed no transmission, while others were said to have little to no transmission occurring from asymptomatic case-patients. It was confusing for a long time because people that were presymptomatic where thought to be asymptomatic then go on to infect other people, basically being misdiagnosed. But it appears many other countries are coming to the same conclusion.
So with that in mind keeping kids away from relatives and teachers not wanting to work because they were basically saying the kids will give us covid is not good, and it's still happening. We've had kids wearing masks indoors and outdoors at school then when they get to the cafeteria, they take their masks off, lol, really. 2 yrs has created a myriad of sociological and psychological trauma that will stay with these young people for the rest of their lives. Just the thought of family violence against kids is enough to make me cry considering it's the school that is the first place that this is detected. It's the adults that should be looking after the kids and not adults using kids as shields so their not infected, not my vision of a level headed society. Personally I think it will come to pass that what we did to the kids is one of the most regrettable tragedies of this pandemic. imo of course. cheers.
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PabloLerntKochen
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I got tested negative, but I still have symptoms, gonna talk with my GP