Italian heros/subs/grinders/hoagies et al

[karadekoolaid]

.Hero, hoagie, grinder? Not a clue.

the "clue" is where you are, at that moment....

in the Phila area:
they are hoagies -
a "grinder" is a hoagie that's been broiled to melt the cheese and make it warm . . .
"Sub" is also a recognized term.... short for submarine sandwich - it's the 'shape' thing
"hero" not so much, , ,

in Baltimore they are known as "zeps" - for zeppelins - again the shape thing.

other areas have other names - sometimes one needs a picture to know . . .

So basically you're telling me they're the same thing ( a sub) , but in different cities?

 

[CookieMonster]

So basically you're telling me they're the same thing ( a sub) , but in different cities?

that is essentially true.
the basic shape and contents are ~ the same.
the bread, the number of meats, the layering, the cheese, location of the cheese, oil dressing or mayo, tomato, no tomato, how much lettuce, lettuce on the bottom, lettuce on the top , , ,
that's where the food fights start.

"locals" get right darn picky about which shop makes "the best" according to them.
when we moved here, I asked the guys working on the house where to get a good sub (that's what they are called in this area)
since they "eat out" just about every day all over the place . . . I figured they would have good tasting info . . .
so I went to the recommended place - once. never went back. not my idea of a sub . . .

 

[TastyReuben]

…and let’s not forget Quiznos and their conveyor oven for your sub.

Here in SW Ohio, we’d say sub or hoagie, hero would be less used but understood, and grinder…nope. However, in my wife’s hometown in upstate NY, grinder was pretty common.

 

[msmofet]

karadekoolaid Puggles has a good one here. What did you cook or eat today (January 2025)

Yes but that looks cooked.

I’m talking about an Italian sub/hero as they are called in my area which is north New Jersey. No place around here serves an “Italian” sub/hero (usually salami, ham, provolone, lettuce, tomato, oil, vinegar, sometimes onions and additional meats) hot.

 

[Barriehie]

Yes but that looks cooked.

I’m talking about an Italian sub/hero as they are called in my area which is north New Jersey. No place around here serves an “Italian” sub/hero (usually salami, ham, provolone, lettuce, tomato, oil, vinegar, sometimes onions and additional meats) hot.

Missed that! 😲

 

[Morning Glory]

I'm another who doesn't understand what these things are. Maybe there is a better way of phrasing the title of the thread?

 

[Barriehie]

Bit of a read here on differences. 2nd hit in my search engine. Chutney vs Pickle

Hth

 

[CookieMonster]

I'm another who doesn't understand what these things are. Maybe there is a better way of phrasing the title of the thread?

pix worth many bites . . .
https://www.jerseymikes.com/menu/cold-subs

 

[TastyReuben]

Look what I’m getting:

Loaded Italian sub…toasted.

 

[TastyReuben]

I'm another who doesn't understand what these things are. Maybe there is a better way of phrasing the title of the thread?

Here ya go!

Submarine sandwich - Wikipedia

 

[JAS_OH1]

karadekoolaid Puggles has a good one here. What did you cook or eat today (January 2025)

That one looks cooked to me!

A sub (submarine) I know; first time I went to the US in 1974, we ate the most amazing subs in New Brunswick! Plus we've got the ubiquitous SubWay all over the place here.
Hero, hoagie, grinder? Not a clue. Are they like the (British) bap, sarnie, buttie?

No butter on it.

This kind of reminds me of when American style coffee places arrived here with 5 million words for a cup of coffee.
At first everyone was like AAAAARRGGGGHHH I DON”T KNOW WHAT YOU’RE ON ABOUT CAN’T YOU JUST GIVE ME A CUP OF NORMAL COFFEE?!!! 😂

But then as the nuances were understood it very quickly turned into-
“I’ll have a grande caramel macchiato in a venti cup, 1/2 almond milk, 1/2 soy milk, double the amount of vanilla syrup, caramel wall in the cup, no caramel drizzle on, tall cup ice, whipped cream, 1 shot extra espresso (decaf), thanks. WHAT? What do you mean you’re out of almond milk, how disappointing” 😂

Cors most of us would prefer a decent cup of tea but Starbucks won’t engage on that.

So I reckon Hero’s, Hoagies, Grinders would be embraced the same way.. if someone else was making them 😜

I've never been to Starbucks and have no plans on doing so in the future. I agree, there's an untapped market on tea that they are missing out on!

My family is of Italian descent, and we have never cooked the cold cuts in our Italian heros. Everything is cold.
Around here, none of the restaurants make hot Italian heros. They are always cold.
I'm wondering if many people cook the cold cuts.

I've never eaten one so I don't know how to answer that, there's not an option that fits for me. I know I don't like cured meats on a charcuterie board, I always just eat the cheese and crackers, which is why I haven't eaten them on a sandwich. The way I like a sub/hoagie/grinder or whatever can be either hot or cold, but I like turkey or roast beef (or both together) on a cold sub and on a hot one, steak or chicken.

 

[JAS_OH1]

I'm another who doesn't understand what these things are. Maybe there is a better way of phrasing the title of the thread?

"Do you cook the cold cuts in your Italian heros/subs/grinders/hoagies" AKA "big sandwich"?​

 

[JAS_OH1]

pix worth many bites . . .
https://www.jerseymikes.com/menu/cold-subs

But you can't put a photo in the title.

 

[SandwichShortOfAPicnic]

I didn’t understand it because we don’t re-cook already cooked meat.
I only understood when I saw the pictures.

 

[JAS_OH1]

I didn’t understand it because we don’t re-cook already cooked meat.
I only understood when I saw the pictures.

When you put pepperoni on a pizza, is it a different kind of pepperoni that isn't cooked? Over here we use cooked pepperoni and then cook it again on the pizza.