The General Chat Thread (2023)

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TastyReuben said:
Yeah, about halfway (more or less) between Cincy and Columbus.

You know…my brother just moved up your way, sort of. He’s just east of Lansing, in Mason.
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Your brother will be digging out, too; hopefully he didn’t have to go anywhere today.

General Motors announced that they would be requiring employees to go back to work a minimum of three days a week. Ford is still allowing teams to pick their own cadence. We are targeting at least once a week. I’m wondering how many GM employees are going to start looking for work at Ford after this storm.
 
TastyReuben said:
Our 3-5 inches turned into less than an inch before it warmed up and switched over to rain, so that snow never developed and now it’s killing my earlier snowfall!
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We’re got at least 15 cm here, and it’s still coming down.

I worked all day, did some stitching after quitting time, husband made dinner, and now I have to decide if I want to stitch more or play video games tonight. Decisions, decisions…
 
The Late Night Gourmet said:
Your brother will be digging out, too; hopefully he didn’t have to go anywhere today.
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He’s retired, he doesn’t have to do anything if he doesn’t want to. :laugh:


The Late Night Gourmet said:
General Motors announced that they would be requiring employees to go back to work a minimum of three days a week.
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That’s happening everywhere. We’ve been told everyone has to come back for two days a week, but they’re still hammering out the details, so who knows? 🤷🏻
 
The Late Night Gourmet said:
There's no way to round up all the guns - Ruby Ridge and Waco are examples of what can go wrong with that. No way this could ever happen in a mass scale. Some people would voluntarily turn them in, but many wouldn't.
There's no way to stop every single crazy person from getting a gun - education, metal detectors, cameras, policing, and a variety of other measures can help reduce the likelihood and severity, but it can't completely eliminate it.
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Our mass shootings are increasing. So far in 2023, we are on a record setting pace. At this point, I'd settle for a reduction in mass shootings.

Other countries have managed to deal with mass shootings. We just keep saying and doing the same things, over and over, and sending out "thoughts and prayers."

CD
 
The past couple of weeks the temperature has been stupidly low, so so cold, roads and pavements icy and slippery. Yesterday warmed up a bit and was rainy, same today so I walked in, hopefully this will now continue as I like/need the exercise, plus I saw my doggie friend Nessa today for the first time since November last year :love:
 
Lullabelle said:
The past couple of weeks the temperature has been stupidly low, so so cold, roads and pavements icy and slippery. Yesterday warmed up a bit and was rainy, same today so I walked in, hopefully this will now continue as I like/need the exercise, plus I saw my doggie friend Nessa today for the first time since November last year :love:
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Was Nessa on the case, dealing with the errant rat in the lab?
 
The Late Night Gourmet said:
  • There's no way to stop every single crazy person from getting a gun - education, metal detectors, cameras, policing, and a variety of other measures can help reduce the likelihood and severity, but it can't completely eliminate it.
A number of predictions from that movie have turned out to be true, or partly true, so it's not completely impossible. But, if you saw the movie, you'll know that the system was not without its problems.
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there's no way to stop humans from being human. Psychopaths don't get born, normal people go crazy because of certain things that are happening. I did go crazy once myself and thanks to therapie I went sane again. And what's more crazy, to kill somebody or to build a perfect system where nobody gets killed? I guess the president would argue, we wouldn't have the money for that.

There's a system tested in some US cities, that gets tons of bytes of criminal data every second and based on that data it can predict crimes before they happen. If memory serves me right, the program has a 30% chance of success.
 
karadekoolaid said:
Oh but there is.
Stop selling the bloody things. They´re weapons of WAR. Is America at war with itself?
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Exactly. And that not ALL shootings can be prevented is no argument for not banning guns.

In the past 100 years the Netherlands had 2 mass shootings I know of. It's extremely, extremely rare. I really don't understand many Americans about this, and especially when they point to 2 mass shootings in a century here as an example that it doesn't work while they have multiple mass shootings around the country every day. And in schools too, far too often!
 
Windigo said:
Exactly. And that not ALL shootings can be prevented is no argument for not banning guns.

In the past 100 years the Netherlands had 2 mass shootings I know of. It's extremely, extremely rare. I really don't understand many Americans about this, and especially when they point to 2 mass shootings in a century here as an example that it doesn't work while they have multiple mass shootings around the country every day. And in schools too, far too often!
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A total ban will never happen here. That would not even be constitutional. But, the constitution does allow for regulations. There are sensible regulations that could greatly reduce these kinds of senseless killings.

CD
 
I have never heard of a mass shooting in Portugal. I'm not sure we even ever had one. We're a very gun adverse country. Most people I know had never owned a gun, and they wouldn't know how to get one even if their life depended on it.

There's always people who are set on doing harm but what makes the difference is what weapons are available to them. When a person is decided to hurt another, they'll use the most letal method available to them. Guns are the most letal weapon. If they have a gun available, they'll use a gun. If a gun is not available to them they'll use something else. I'm not making this up, I've read this somewhere on an article about homicide rates.

So the easy availability of guns is an issue. But there must be something cultural going on too. It's not as easy as completely banning guns or making it very difficult to acquire a gun. If the people are attached to the idea of owning a gun and feel they should have the right to own one, they're not going to want to have that right taken away from them.
 
caseydog said:
A total ban will never happen here. That would not even be constitutional. But, the constitution does allow for regulations. There are sensible regulations that could greatly reduce these kinds of senseless killings.

CD
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Well, with the recent ROE vs WADE situation I wouldn't say anything is impossible . Of course regulations would help.
 
To expand on what I said above: one of the mass shootings was a terrorist attack by someone who had an illegal gun. The other was a guy who had a gun license (which is possible here but VERY difficult) and who got into psychosis most likely.
So apparently regulating who is able to get a gun is possible and can be effective .

There are more gun incidents in the Netherlands, but I was specifying shootings. The gun incidents are ALL related to organised crime, and they don't target civilians. They are also never mass shootings , but sometimes assasinations within crime networks. Those guns are always obtained by illegal means.
 
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