How is the corona virus affecting you?

The Late Night Gourmet said:
If I were to guess, I'd say it's because your country did such a phenomenal job with containing the outbreak, and maybe Ms. Ardern is less motivated to fight with other countries where the need is more urgent.
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More good luck than good management, hell our border staff havnt had the jab yet, well 15 % have whoopee, we along with Australia are way behind the rest of the world.

Russ
 
My government has another 'brilliant' idea, because vaccination is going so slow they're going to ignore the recommended time between vaccines so more people can get their first shot. But they're prolonging the time between shots from the recommended 6 weeks to 12 weeks. So now if you do get vaccinated, it probably won't work well.

Yay.

Also the moment I'm getting vacced has now been moved from this month to the end of may, IF they don't ef up that again either.
 
Windigo said:
My government has another 'brilliant' idea, because vaccination is going so slow they're going to ignore the recommended time between vaccines so more people can get their first shot. But they're prolonging the time between shots from the recommended 6 weeks to 12 weeks. So now if you do get vaccinated, it probably won't work well.

Yay.

Also the moment I'm getting vacced has now been moved from this month to the end of may, IF they don't ef up that again either.
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The UK are also running them at 10-12 weeks between doses - but this approach whilst a bit controversial when it was announced, was supported by the scientists. Specifically for the Oxford-AZ vaccine, although the initial trials had the doses much closer together, they've found that extending the booster interval has no detrimental effect on the vaccines' effectiveness.

Plus you get most of your protection after the initial dose, so there is some sense in vaccinating as many people as possible with 60-70% protection as that is the quickest way to reduce overall transmission.

I'm happy to report that I had my first dose on Sunday morning - side effects manifested themselves about 10 hours later (aching arm, fatigue & chills) but lasted less than 24 hours :okay: Booster is due end of June/beginning of July.
 
caseydog said:
Wow, sorry to hear about so many delays in other countries. I get my second Pfizer shot six days from now.

CD
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Thank you. That is kind.
It is not all dark and hopeless. I see daily efforts. Today in my city 3.000 people are In plan to get vaccinated at the Fair center. Reading instances are placing effort. There are minuses, but it is not all gloomy.
Nastavlja se cijepljenje građana na Zagrebačkom velesajmu
Am always for the up hope and optimistic, even if it is hard at times, depending on circumstances.
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MrsDangermouse said:
The UK are also running them at 10-12 weeks between doses - but this approach whilst a bit controversial when it was announced, was supported by the scientists. Specifically for the Oxford-AZ vaccine, although the initial trials had the doses much closer together, they've found that extending the booster interval has no detrimental effect on the vaccines' effectiveness.

Plus you get most of your protection after the initial dose, so there is some sense in vaccinating as many people as possible with 60-70% protection as that is the quickest way to reduce overall transmission.

I'm happy to report that I had my first dose on Sunday morning - side effects manifested themselves about 10 hours later (aching arm, fatigue & chills) but lasted less than 24 hours :okay: Booster is due end of June/beginning of July.
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I've read news stories about the UK strategy to get as many first jabs in as possible. I've heard both good an bad about that. My first and second Pfizer jab will be 28 days apart. My sister the RN thought that was a bit long, but being a hospital nurse, she got her shots done at the ideal time sequence. But, she also got her Pfizer jabs in January, as a first responder.

CD
 
Just received a collective mail from the Performers'Union, inviting to submit for priority vaccination.
They base it on an official Culture Ministry letter, all performers who have confirmed concerts or alike, may apply.

Tricky for some, but might work for some.

Good to see initiative.
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Windigo said:
My government has another 'brilliant' idea, because vaccination is going so slow they're going to ignore the recommended time between vaccines so more people can get their first shot. But they're prolonging the time between shots from the recommended 6 weeks to 12 weeks. So now if you do get vaccinated, it probably won't work well.

Yay.

Also the moment I'm getting vacced has now been moved from this month to the end of may, IF they don't ef up that again either.
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The 12 week pause is working very well here, and with the data collected it is showing to be very effective. Official estimates have it that as many as 10,500 lives have been saved already and the daily death toll in the UK is now comparable to those dying from influenza.
 
The Velvet Curtain said:
The 12 week pause is working very well here, and with the data collected it is showing to be very effective. Official estimates have it that as many as 10,500 lives have been saved already and the daily death toll in the UK is now comparable to those dying from influenza.
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The 2-stage vaccines have the wonderful characteristic of being ~70% effective after the first dose. Instead of getting 1 million people fully vaccinated, you can get 2 million people ~70% vaccinated, and really start to slow down the spread. I would rather have 100% of the population 50% vaccinated than 50% of the population 100% vaccinated.
 
The Late Night Gourmet said:
The 2-stage vaccines have the wonderful characteristic of being ~70% effective after the first dose. Instead of getting 1 million people fully vaccinated, you can get 2 million people ~70% vaccinated, and really start to slow down the spread. I would rather have 100% of the population 50% vaccinated than 50% of the population 100% vaccinated.
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That's good to hear.

However, our government isn't reliable at all.

Right now the target of 3 million vaccinations has not been reached in 3 months, and everything is delayed, delayed and delayed again. Why would the giving of the second vaccine not be delayed for ages? There's a million vaccines going unused because the government wants to have something as a backup, and 3 million doses of Astrazenaca are now going to be given to only 40% of the planning.

What I, and other vulnerable groups am going to get is still unclear. When I will get it is also unclear. And we've just heard that they're likely to bypass the priotisinging of at risk groups now, because going by age category is 'more efficient' which could mean I will only get my second shot somewhere in september and my first in maybe, the end of july. This while I would be vaccinated last week. AND we don't get to choose to go on a list for spare vaccines like Astrazenaca, as the government refuses to let actual doctors prioritise people.

So.. that's why all this is no solution. Especially when they are talking about opening up the economy by the end of this month. If all at risk groups are still going to be unprotected by then, the hospitals will definitely reach their breaking point. And I would possibly be among the victims of those choices.
 
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