How is the corona virus affecting you?

garlichead said:
Crickets on killer T cells and B cells, not surprising.
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Windigo said:
Silence as far as I know
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:ohmy: I didn't know that expression, 'crickets'!

Maybe news coverage is better in the UK. I've seen the point made about T and B cells made several times here, by virologists on TV news programmes.
 
Morning Glory said:
:ohmy: I didn't know that expression, 'crickets'!

Maybe news coverage is better in the UK. I've seen the point made about T and B cells made several times here, by virologists on TV news programmes.
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A big difference on your side of the pond in general and in Europe is the way gov'ts have rolled out information. some have been very transparent and some more than others no doubt. One of the main issues, trust. For example in NA natural immunity is a bad word, never spoken because the main goal is to vaccinate. Here we have vaccine passports and in many other countries they accept natural immunity as part of their passport, not here. Never mind the reason to vaccinate is to create antibodies along with T cells and B cells. Antibodies will always wane simply because that's what the body does to avoid the blood from thickening and causing problems further downstream. this isn't anything new and boosters was always in their program from the get go. The T cells and the B cells are the back up for immunity and can last for years, decades and for life depending on the particular disease that it's attached to. Yes a booster will add a little extra protection immediately that T cells might not but we're splitting hairs here. does it justify boosting everyone that's old enough to crawl, many don't think so. It's just frustrating that you really can't trust anything that comes out of the CDC, FDA or gov't. People are frustrated with the baby talk, the simple lets keep doing what we're doing and getting the same results. Hopefully omicron puts an end to it once and for all.
 
garlichead said:
I think I'm getting or hitting my limit for total misinformation or just old school bull.

NEWS FLASH: Pfizer CEO says we may need a 4th vaccine dose to combat the omicron variant.

In an earlier video "Pfizer says 3 shots neutralize omicron variant in early findings"

None of the vaccines have neutralized any variant to date (we can still get the virus and we can still transmit the virus) with 2500 deaths in England in the last month of double vaccinated people over 50 and Pfizer is apparently formulating a new vaccine specifically for the omicron which I suspect will be as effective.

Crickets on killer T cells and B cells, not surprising.
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Can we have links to your sources please.
 
Morning Glory said:
What does 'crickets' mean?
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Just to explain it further...think of those quiet summer nights...peaceful...outside...in the middle of nowhere...all you'll hear are the crickets, and the saying alludes to that "it's so quiet, all I could hear were the crickets" feeling.

Now I've said crickets so much, the word is making me giggle! Crickets!
 
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Boris tells us that he has been repeatedly assured that there wasn't a party at No. 10 last year. I assume he was assured of this by his director of communications whose job is to brief the PM on the tone to take. This is the same director of communications who we all now know was at the party (that didn't happen) and was handing out prizes.
Boris now refuses to comment on this because one of his chums is investigating whether the party took place and it would be inappropriate to say anything.

Four year olds make more convincing liars.
 
Folks today were discussing one of our colleagues who refuses to have vaccines despite his wife contracting covid and being very ill in hospital for quite a long time, he is always saying how much he loves his baby daughter, she is his world, yet he doesn't protect her by not being vaccinated. I pointed out that it is his right to refuse, which is true, we all have the right to refuse, they then grumped at me but, his body, his choice whether you agree with his decision or not.
 
Windigo said:
Right, the term was ' insulation' not ' isolation'. Sorry to hear you're in the same position.
Our house is 96 years old so drafts everywhere. Glad I've got my electric duvets, the gas bill is the problem, at least not the electricity bill as well.
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I guess it's a trade off. Old homes have character and and nostalgia. New homes may lack that, but have insulation, efficient heating, and double pane windows.

CD
 
caseydog said:
I guess it's a trade off. Old homes have character and and nostalgia. New homes may lack that, but have insulation, efficient heating, and double pane windows.

CD
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I used to laugh at this frequent Norm Abram saying on "This Old House," usually spoken after tearing into the structure of some house from 1790 or so: "They sure don't build 'em like they used to...thank god!" :laugh:
 
I see the coverage of what's going on in Europe and the North America and then I compare it to what's going on here in Japan... The statistic on the news here is something like 90% + of the people who died of Covid were over 70 and those who were hospitalized have mostly over 50 and had co-morbidities. Zero deaths from people under 20 and very few under 50 unless they lead a workaholic lifestyle.

From the beginning, it seems to me the main factors determining outcome are age and the person's health condition. I wish I'd see more from the media about getting into shape and eating 'right' as a preventative for Covid.

So for me, Covid hasn't affected my life at all (here). I've not met anyone who's caught it.
 
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