The General Chat Thread (2016-2022)

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Yes, degrees C.

NYC is called a "heat island". There is so much concrete and steel that when it gets warmed up, the ambient temps stay up to 10 degrees F hotter at night when the atmosphere otherwise cools off.
 
buckytom said:
Yes, degrees C.

NYC is called a "heat island". There is so much concrete and steel that when it gets warmed up, the ambient temps stay up to 10 degrees F hotter at night when the atmosphere otherwise cools off.
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You have my complete sympathy.
 
Thanks. That's why I moved out of the city to the top of a mountain 40 miles northwest. I hate hot weather unless I'm near a pool or beach.
 
buckytom said:
We're going to have a mini heat wave here, between 32 and 38 until Wednesday, and I just found out that the AC in my car isn't working. I sweated a puddle while driving into work this afternoon.
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Get a bike and cycle there!
 
50 miles each way sandwiched around a 17 hour shift? On interstate highways? Ain't gonna happen.
 
Cinisajoy said:
I have a 98 year old aunt that is just starting to have major health problems.
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My Grandfather was similar. He was diagnosed with cancer at 91. Until then he hadn't been ill in his life and had been a fighter pilot in WWII.

creative said:
I wonder if you can you be specific in what organic vegetables you are implying are carcinogenic and why?
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creative said:
I am asking specifically what is it about organic veg that you say is carcinogenic. Perhaps you have no answer?
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I don't want to get into an argument with you but do you appreciate that pesticides are permitted to be used in organic anything? The list of approved ones is much more limited than traditional farming methods, but they are still allowed to use pesticides. (And I am talking about the UK, USA, Canadian and Australia (and probably NZ) systems here.)

Even home grown "organic" stuff is not necessarily pesticide free because the organic remedies sold in gardening centres through to DIY stores and the likes still contain permitted pesticides that are allowed to be used in organic labelled stuff.

The only truly 'organic' in the sense of nothing extra added, is stuff you have grown yourself where you have manufactured your own soil/compost over the years knowing that it does not have anything added.

It is a minefield and not what it appears to be or what consumers have been lead to believe (without being corrected). You have to look at the producer of the stuff you are getting, contacting them and actually asking them what they are using and you will probably be told they are using what they are allowed according to legal this that and the other

Sorry my laptop battery has just died - I'm outside with the chicks letting them have some sunshine for the first time and need to bring them in.

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UK FSA https://www.food.gov.uk/business-industry/farmingfood/pesticides/pestfaq (scouts around it really)
Are pesticides used on organic food?
In most cases, organic food is produced without using pesticides. However, EU organic food regulations do allow a very limited range of pesticides in organic food production to be used but only on some types of crops.

Some organic foods are sampled as part of the official residue monitoring programme overseen by the Defra Expert Committee on Pesticide Residues in Food (PRiF). In addition, some pesticides approved for use in organic production have recently been included in the range of pesticides that are looked for in the official monitoring programme.
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A rather old article from the independent.
http://www.independent.co.uk/enviro...-indulgence-the-world-cant-afford-818585.html

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And the soil association - careful wording. (I am on the wall wrt to organic btw. I can see both sides of the argument and know how easy it is to make stuff derived from natural ingredients coming from an organic chemistry background (unfinished PhD).

https://www.soilassociation.org/org...your-food/reduce-your-exposure-to-pesticides/

Many people don’t realise over 320 pesticides can be routinely used in non-organic farming and these are often present in non-organic food eat despite washing and cooking. Organic farming standards, on the other hand, don't allow any synthetic pesticides and absolutely no herbicides such as Glyphosate.

Organic farmers are permitted to use just 15 pesticides, derived from natural ingredients including citronella and clove oil, but only under very restricted circumstances. Research suggests that if all UK farming was organic, pesticide use would drop by 98%! This means that organic farms are a haven for wildlife and these toxic pesticides can’t make their way into the food chain and into us.
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I don't want to get into an argument with you but do you appreciate that pesticides are permitted to be used in organic anything? The list of approved ones is much more limited than traditional farming methods, but they are still allowed to use pesticides. (And I am talking about the UK, USA, Canadian and Australia (and probably NZ) systems here.)

Even home grown "organic" stuff is not necessarily pesticide free because the organic remedies sold in gardening centres through to DIY stores and the likes still contain permitted pesticides that are allowed to be used in organic labelled stuff.

The only truly 'organic' in the sense of nothing extra added, is stuff you have grown yourself where you have manufactured your own soil/compost over the years knowing that it does not have anything added.

It is a minefield and not what it appears to be or what consumers have been lead to believe (without being corrected). You have to look at the producer of the stuff you are getting, contacting them and actually asking them what they are using and you will probably be told they are using what they are allowed according to legal this that and the other

Sorry my laptop battery has just died - I'm outside with the chicks letting them have some sunshine for the first time and need to bring them in.

Right Editing to add 2 random links - one from each side of the 'çase'.
UK FSA https://www.food.gov.uk/business-industry/farmingfood/pesticides/pestfaq (scouts around it really)


A rather old article from the independent.
http://www.independent.co.uk/enviro...-indulgence-the-world-cant-afford-818585.html

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And the soil association - careful wording. (I am on the wall wrt to organic btw. I can see both sides of the argument and know how easy it is to make stuff derived from natural ingredients coming from an organic chemistry background (unfinished PhD).

https://www.soilassociation.org/org...your-food/reduce-your-exposure-to-pesticides/
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For someone who says that they don't want to get into the argument with me (about my enquiring into classic33's claim that organic veg are carcinogenic), well....you have gone to town here somewhat and missed the point in the process! I hope you realise I was talking about the UK situation?

Firstly I was not arguing for organic veg taking over from mainstream agriculture or even that they don't contain pesticides. I am fully aware of the limited application (on both counts!)

Let's get this into perspective shall we? Rotenone is a natural pesticide, occasionally but rarely used in organic agriculture, chronic use of which has been linked in a recent study to Parkinson’s disease.

http://www.lobbywatch.org/archive2.asp?arcid=3977

Furthermore, of the limited number of pesticides used in organic agriculture, did you know that they are not used as a matter of course but, here in UK, have to prove that other agricultural methods haven't worked and then have to apply for permission to use the pesticide?


 
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My wife is in Bangkok today showing respect for Rama IX (King Bhumibol Adulyadej) who died last year.

It is so strange sat here on the stoep without her fussing around sweeping the floor, applying anti mosquito spray, telling me to turn the music down, asking whether I've had enough to eat, and generally being a nuisance.

Oh well, back to normal tomorrow.
 
Yorky said:
My wife is in Bangkok today showing respect for Rama IX (King Bhumibol Adulyadej) who died last year.

It is so strange sat here on the stoep without her fussing around sweeping the floor, applying anti mosquito spray, telling me to turn the music down, asking whether I've had enough to eat, and generally being a nuisance.

Oh well, back to normal tomorrow.
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I long for solitude. Somehow when I'm at home there is always someone else here. It has become particularly irritating since my partner retired. Why did I buy a house with an open plan ground floor? No escape! The kitchen is off of the sitting room which is off of the front room. There are often two TVs competing plus smartphones trilling every so often. Oh and then the dog...

When I visit my friend (I go for at least a week every 3 weeks or so) I get plenty of solitude. He spends a lot of time in the attic room at the top of the house (where the computer is) or in the basement (where the cinema is) and I play happily in the kitchen!
 
Yorky said:
Oh, I didn't mention that. She was adamant that whilst she was away I didn't make a mess in the kitchen. I can't help making a bloody mess. I was planning chili con carne (heated from frozen) but i decided against it just in case.
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How can you make a mess just heating something from frozen? :scratchhead:
 
morning glory said:
How can you make a mess just heating something from frozen? :scratchhead:
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You don't know me. I can make a mess in the kitchen when I'm not even in the kitchen! (according to my wife). I try to blame the cats but to no avail.

It's life. One has no answer.
 
She didn't take the truck (I wouldn't have wanted her to anyway). She is terrified of driving in Bangkok. I don't understand why because it's easier than driving amongst the morons up here in Nakhorn Nowhere. If we do take the truck to Bangkok she is quite happy to drive 95% of the way on condition that I take over on the outskirts.
 
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