How is the corona virus affecting you?
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Mixed feelings about vaccine passports. In most countries the vaccine schedule is administered by the government and you cannot get a shot just because you want to, you have to wait for your turn. First people being vaccinated are elders and people with chronic illnesses - who are not the people who travel most frequently. While it makes perfect sense because people who are vaccinated pose a lower risk, it's discriminating people on something that's outside of their control. And at the rate vaccines are being administered, I should only be able to travel in 2023 
MrsDangermouse
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Yes I have this concern too. Whilst on the one (selfish) hand I think it'd be great to have a vaccine passport to allow me to travel, on the other hand I'm concerned that it will just create even more divisions in societyMixed feelings about vaccine passports. In most countries the vaccine schedule is administered by the government and you cannot get a shot just because you want to, you have to wait for your turn. First people being vaccinated are elders and people with chronic illnesses - who are not the people who travel most frequently. While it makes perfect sense because people who are vaccinated pose a lower risk, it's discriminating people on something that's outside of their control. And at the rate vaccines are being administered, I should only be able to travel in 2023
Whilst young people may not have suffered too badly from a health point of view, they're probably the ones who have been affected most by the lockdowns.....education interrupted (with a knock-on effect on their later careers?), no socialising, lots of young people work in hospitality and have therefore not been working, and who knows how well the sector will recover so we could see youth unemployment rise. They're at the bottom of the list for vaccinations (which makes sense from a medical point of view) but then to be told that they can't go on holiday, (maybe) can't go to the pub or sporting events just seems unfair.
I'm a realist and I don't expect life to be fair....but it does just seem like kicking a whole group of people while they're down, and risks creating resentment and and an "us Vs them" society. Plus in Britain you have to also consider the Brexit-effect...where lots of young people feel that their future opportunities (free travel, Erasmus etc.) have been stolen from them by (mostly) older voters.
Agreed. I also don't think the vaccine passport is the answer the travel industry needs, because the people being vaccinated are not the ones who travel the most.Yes I have this concern too. Whilst on the one (selfish) hand I think it'd be great to have a vaccine passport to allow me to travel, on the other hand I'm concerned that it will just create even more divisions in society
Whilst young people may not have suffered too badly from a health point of view, they're probably the ones who have been affected most by the lockdowns.....education interrupted (with a knock-on effect on their later careers?), no socialising, lots of young people work in hospitality and have therefore not been working, and who knows how well the sector will recover so we could see youth unemployment rise. They're at the bottom of the list for vaccinations (which makes sense from a medical point of view) but then to be told that they can't go on holiday, (maybe) can't go to the pub or sporting events just seems unfair.
I'm a realist and I don't expect life to be fair....but it does just seem like kicking a whole group of people while they're down, and risks creating resentment and and an "us Vs them" society. Plus in Britain you have to also consider the Brexit-effect...where lots of young people feel that their future opportunities (free travel, Erasmus etc.) have been stolen from them by (mostly) older voters.
A couple weeks ago I was reading an article written by a psychiatrist about how young adults are the ones suffering the most from the pandemic. Elder people have gone through a number of so called life changing events: starting a career, buying a house, getting married, starting a family, etc., but young adults have yet to experience these events and they're seeing their life on hold.
The pandemic has been nice to me so far, I am healthy, I still have a job, all the people I care for are also healthy and employed, and my frustrations are thankfully very small. I've always thought the pandemic is a lot more harsh on elders who don't have as long to live and are spending their precious time locked in the house instead of enjoying family and friends, but I can imagine a lot of young people are frustrated that they can't get a job, or find a life partner, or can't afford to have children now, with no idea when life will be back to normal again.
medtran49
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Got my first shot last night. Arm is a bit sore this morning, but that's it so far. Craig goes today.
Our governor announced this week that Florida will go 55 year old eligibility sometime this month, but wouldn't give an exact date yet.
Once you're eligible, there is no priority among eligibles. Right now, anyone 50+ is eligible, so I have as much right to a vaccine as someone who's 85. After the 29th, anyone over 16 will be eligible.
We've done this in bands, like everyone else, and part of what they're basing opening up to more people on is when the number of vaccines given for those currently eligible start tapering off - meaning if 65+ and essential workers are the only ones eligible, and they've given 100K shots two weeks ago, and 50K last week, and 10K shots this week, then nearly all of those folks that want it have had it, and it's time to open it up a bit.
Keep in mind, we (meaning my state, and especially my county), have a fair amount of folks who do not want the vaccine, including healthcare workers and teachers, so it was getting to the point of some weeks, having vaccines lying around unscheduled and unused. That's partly what led to them making my age group available.
With all the news reports about how hard a time some people are having at getting an appointment, we expected to be online constantly searching, but it wasn't like that at all, everyone I know in this last group (my group) found appointments fairly easily.
That is worrying. Here we seem to be getting over 90% uptake.
rascal
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Survey here says only 50% will have the jab.
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I suppose that is the down side of being successful at suppressing the disease. You don't know anyone who almost died from it, you don't have a close family member (or two) whose lives ebbed away alone in hospital because nobody was allowed to visit them. You haven't been banned from seeing, never mind touching your closest family members for twelve months - something even prisoners aren't denied because it is inhuman. If you had that experience then you would find yourself rushing toward the needle with your sleeve rolled up.
medtran49
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Craig got his first jab before our day deteriorated.
Everything ok?
medtran49
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Craig got to spend the entire afternoon in the ER because he had blood work yesterday and it resulted in a critically high potassium level, so the doc called and told him to get to the ER because he could have a fatal arrhythmia and/or other cardiac problems due to the high potassium. Well, turned out he didn't really have a critically high potassium. The ER doc said his blood specimen must have hemolyzed, which caused the falsely elevated potassium. But, I spent half the afternoon with him at the ER instead of working, then left to try to get some work done when they decided to draw another round of blood just to be sure, then he was there the rest of the afternoon until almost 7 when they finally let him go. So, time spent not working and what is sure to be a nice big ER bill over nothing, not to mention worrying for several hours.
Glad to hear Craig is OK. And you are right, what a lousy day. Seems unfair you will get stuck with an ER bill because of false test results and on top of the unnecessary stress - better safe than sorry but, it still sucks tomatoes. Hope tomorrow is a better day for both you and Craig.
I went to 7-Eleven to grab something, and the clerk there has been there a long time, so we chat. He is about my age, so I asked him if he has gotten his shots yet. He said, "Nope." I asked if he is trying to find one. "Nope." Then I remembered, he is a diehard Republican and Trump cult member.
I wonder if some of these cult members don't want Covid to go away, just because it might make Biden look good. If we fail to reach herd immunity, it's a victory for Trump.
CD
I wonder if some of these cult members don't want Covid to go away, just because it might make Biden look good. If we fail to reach herd immunity, it's a victory for Trump.
CD