How is the corona virus affecting you?

[flyinglentris]

Doug Ford our Premier in Ontario just introduced more restrictions. 1/2 capacity in restaurants and bars and no indoor gatherings of more than 10 people and of course masks are mandatory everywhere, social distancing and proof of double vaccination to get into many establishments like restaurants. Starting Tuesday all travelers entering Canada will be required to produce a negative PCR test.

This allows the gov't to think more by slowing the pandemic down, because thinking is scarce and elusive, Mr. Ford just said that the tsunami that is Omicron that is hitting England right now can't happen here and these precautions are needed. Thanks Doug, now that is real critical thinking and I'm positive it will work this time.

There seems to be a 'wishful thinking' part to that.

 

[JAS_OH1]

mine is still sore from my booster on the 1st (Dec)...

Wow, that's a long time. I just got my booster Wednesday. Mine is still sore but it's only been a couple of days. I didn't have any other side effects, thankfully.

So, my youngest stepdaughter (the only one of the kids who had the good sense to get vaccinated) and her fiancé invited my husband and I, plus the in-laws, to Christmas dinner, just the six of us, all vaccinated. She asked us about a month ago. I was asking her via text this morning what I could bring, telling her that I could bake some fresh bread or rolls and have the stuff to make pecan pie if she wants me to bring that. She said yes to both, and then said she was also baking a cake for her brother's birthday (the 27th) and that she had invited him to Christmas dinner. I stated that I didn't know he had gotten vaccinated, and she said she didn't think he had. I told her to find out because I won't be coming if so. And her grandmother has a lung condition and has been on antibiotics for several years to keep it at bay but it's incurable, and if she gets covid-19 (she is in her late 70s) it will most likely kill her. And my stepson works in a place where he comes into contact with 100s of people daily, even though he wears a mask. I don't know what my stepdaughter was thinking, she should have invited him over on his birthday, just him, if she isn't afraid of covid-19. I am sure she was just trying to make him feel included since he lives alone (in a separate wing of our house that is blocked off from our side) and doesn't have a partner or any friends, really (he's very much a loner). We don't have him over because he won't get vaccinated. And I thought the reason she didn't invite her older sister and husband was because they weren't vaccinated? I just don't know about people sometimes. I can't just say, "Oh, well we declined the big family party with all of the cousins up at the Italian American club because some of the family isn't vaccinated, and we don't eat at restaurants or shop in stores in person because people don't wear masks and may not be vaccinated, and we won't go visit the oldest daughter because she and her husband haven't been vaccinated, but we will make an exception for your unvaccinated brother since it's Christmas and his birthday is coming up?" How is being careful for nearly 2 years and then risking getting covid-19 from a family member during the holidays reasonable at all?

 

[The Velvet Curtain]

Full hard lockdown until at least Jan 14.

-Restaurants, bars, hotels, entertainment, cultural sector, non essential stores : closed
-All schools for all ages and child day cares closed
-No sports competitions, no public events, no large gatherings outside
-Closed barbers, physiotherapists and other close contact services
-Closed day care for disabled and mentally ill people
-No more than 4 visitors allowed at home
-No more than 4 people of the same household outside

Booster shots should be administered to everyone who wants one before february. But only 1.5 millon people have been vaccinated in the whole of December, yet they assume they will vaccinate 9 million in January.. I don't think so given their track record.
And this is all going to last till march, given their track record.

Sorry to read this, the worst possible timing. Sadly I expect the UK will be joining you shortly, along with large parts of Europe.

 

[JAS_OH1]

Well that's interesting regarding the psoriasis. I've had psoriasis all my life, but only on my scalp under my hair. However, since the (likely) covid infection we went through, I've not only had permanent shortness of breath, but also my psoriasis has now found a permanent home in my face that comes on about every 6 to 8 weeks and takes about 2 to 3 weeks to dissapear with meds. I had no idea this was possibly related, as it's also possible for psoriasis to just spread on it's own. Thanks for sharing.

Spoiler: This is what it looks like

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My MIL had clear skin until she hit about 70, and then developed psoriasis, about the same time that she developed her lung infection, which was well before Covid-19. Not saying that you didn't have it, of course, but you are right, it can just happen out of nowhere.

 

[Morning Glory]

Wow, that's a long time. I just got my booster Wednesday. Mine is still sore but it's only been a couple of days. I didn't have any other side effects, thankfully.

So, my youngest stepdaughter (the only one of the kids who had the good sense to get vaccinated) and her fiancé invited my husband and I, plus the in-laws, to Christmas dinner, just the six of us, all vaccinated. She asked us about a month ago. I was asking her via text this morning what I could bring, telling her that I could bake some fresh bread or rolls and have the stuff to make pecan pie if she wants me to bring that. She said yes to both, and then said she was also baking a cake for her brother's birthday (the 27th) and that she had invited him to Christmas dinner. I stated that I didn't know he had gotten vaccinated, and she said she didn't think he had. I told her to find out because I won't be coming if so. And her grandmother has a lung condition and has been on antibiotics for several years to keep it at bay but it's incurable, and if she gets covid-19 (she is in her late 70s) it will most likely kill her. And my stepson works in a place where he comes into contact with 100s of people daily, even though he wears a mask. I don't know what my stepdaughter was thinking, she should have invited him over on his birthday, just him, if she isn't afraid of covid-19. I am sure she was just trying to make him feel included since he lives alone (in a separate wing of our house that is blocked off from our side) and doesn't have a partner or any friends, really (he's very much a loner). We don't have him over because he won't get vaccinated. And I thought the reason she didn't invite her older sister and husband was because they weren't vaccinated? I just don't know about people sometimes. I can't just say, "Oh, well we declined the big family party with all of the cousins up at the Italian American club because some of the family isn't vaccinated, and we don't eat at restaurants or shop in stores in person because people don't wear masks and may not be vaccinated, and we won't go visit the oldest daughter because she and her husband haven't been vaccinated, but we will make an exception for your unvaccinated brother since it's Christmas and his birthday is coming up?" How is being careful for nearly 2 years and then risking getting covid-19 from a family member during the holidays reasonable at all?

I am so lucky really. My kids are all vaccinated with boosters as am I and my partner. But - we still don't want to take any risks at all. They feel the same way so there is no problem or pressure. We'll exchange a few gifts on the doorstep, maintaining distance. You are right to take a stand on this I think, however difficult.

 

[Windigo]

My MIL had clear skin until she hit about 70, and then developed psoriasis, about the same time that she developed her lung infection, which was well before Covid-19. Not saying that you didn't have it, of course, but you are right, it can just happen out of nowhere.

The reason I think we had Covid was not this alone and was explained earlier in this thread.

But in short, in march 2020 hubs and I went to a party where all participants got sick shortly after. We were both sick for 6+ weeks. Multiple of these people got long covid. I have shortness of breath since. We just could not test because testing was not available here at that time.
So my reply was written based on all this.

 

[Windigo]

Sorry to read this, the worst possible timing. Sadly I expect the UK will be joining you shortly, along with large parts of Europe.

Yes that's what our Prime minister said too

 

[JAS_OH1]

The reason I think we had Covid was not this alone and was explained earlier in this thread.

But in short, in march 2020 hubs and I went to a party where all participants got sick shortly after. We were both sick for 6+ weeks. Multiple of these people got long covid. I have shortness of breath since. We just could not test because testing was not available here at that time.
So my reply was written based on all this.

No, of course that sounds like a reasonable explanation since others you were in contact with got tested and had it. Makes perfect sense.

There was another forum member who was claiming that he knows he had covid-19 because he was sick with the symptoms (but he didn't get tested) and I believe he stated that he got it from touching something that had the germs on it, but hadn't been around anyone who had it. It's possible but leaves some room for doubt.

 

[JAS_OH1]

The pandemic is now endemic, a fact of life.

That's actually an incorrect usage of the word. A pandemic is global, an endemic is specific to a region. When I was studying pathophysiology in school I learned that and recognized immediately it wasn't being used in the correct context.

Definition of ENDEMIC

endemic​

adjective

en·dem·ic | \ en-ˈde-mik , in- \
Essential Meaning of endemic
1: growing or existing in a certain place or region, endemic diseases; endemic wildlife
2: common in a particular area or field

Full Definition of endemic​

(Entry 1 of 2)
1a: belonging or native to a particular people or country
b: characteristic of or prevalent in a particular field, area, or environment problems endemic to translation the self-indulgence endemic in the film industry
2: restricted or peculiar to a locality or region: endemic diseases, an endemic species

endemic
noun
en·dem·ic | \ en-ˈde-mik , in- \
Definition of endemic (Entry 2 of 2)
: an organism that is restricted or peculiar to a locality or region : an endemic organism

 

[Windigo]

No, of course that sounds like a reasonable explanation since others you were in contact with got tested and had it. Makes perfect sense.

There was another forum member who was claiming that he knows he had covid-19 because he was sick with the symptoms (but he didn't get tested) and I believe he stated that he got it from touching something that had the germs on it, but hadn't been around anyone who had it. It's possible but leaves some room for doubt.

Yeah those with long covid got antibody tested later so that is how I am sure. But my own symptoms have not been and are not severe enough to qualify for antibody testing. It is restricted here. Which is why I keep saying I think we had Covid because I cannot prove it.

 

[garlichead]

The reason I think we had Covid was not this alone and was explained earlier in this thread.

But in short, in march 2020 hubs and I went to a party where all participants got sick shortly after. We were both sick for 6+ weeks. Multiple of these people got long covid. I have shortness of breath since. We just could not test because testing was not available here at that time.
So my reply was written based on all this.

Well if you've had covid and your double vaxxed then you not only have the vaccine you also have natural immunity. That combination is apparently called super immune. Regardless it doesn't look much better than that.

 

[JAS_OH1]

So update on Christmas dinner:

Future (completely vaccinated) son-in-law thought he had a bad cold but got tested for covid-19 just to make sure. Yep, he has covid, so now Xmas dinner is canceled. Stepdaughter just got back from a work trip and hasn't been around him since last weekend. She has no symptoms (yet) and they plan on segregating from each other for the next week. He got his last jab back in June I think, she didn't get hers until August or September I believe, so his immunity had probably waned and hers hasn't (maybe). They both plan on getting the booster as soon as it's safe for them to be around other people.

 

[karadekoolaid]

Just got a call from a friend of my DILs, who was here on Wednesday evening with us (and 4 others).
She tested positive for Covid.
We´ve all been vaccinated (I´ve actually had 3 shots) but now we´re not going anywhere until at least Tuesday. Then we get tested. IF we´ve been infected, Xmas plans might change; we´ve got family coming from Washington (for Xmas) and LA (for New Year).

 

[Windigo]

Well if you've had covid and your double vaxxed then you not only have the vaccine you also have natural immunity. That combination is apparently called super immune. Regardless it doesn't look much better than that.

Yeah I know I should be fine, but the uncertainty still eats away at me at times.

 

[Windigo]

So update on Christmas dinner:

Future (completely vaccinated) son-in-law thought he had a bad cold but got tested for covid-19 just to make sure. Yep, he has covid, so now Xmas dinner is canceled. Stepdaughter just got back from a work trip and hasn't been around him since last weekend. She has no symptoms (yet) and they plan on segregating from each other for the next week. He got his last jab back in June I think, she didn't get hers until August or September I believe, so his immunity had probably waned and hers hasn't (maybe). They both plan on getting the booster as soon as it's safe for them to be around other people.

Well, at least they tested. Sorry to hear you are in this position now