How is the corona virus affecting you?

garlichead said:
It's winter in the northern hemisphere and viruses love the indoors especially with inadequate ventilation. Get vaccinated. First person I know personally just died of covid last week and he was unvaccinated. It's not that vaccinated people aren't dying of covid because they are it's just more difficult for the virus to do it's job. Omicron could be the variant that could change everything and reduce symptoms to flu like. fingers crossed.
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I am vaccinated, but still unable to get a booster because the Netherlands is the slowest country in Europe with boosters..

They say everyone should get one in January, but the system has been so overloaded with requests that booking an appointment has been impossible for the entire last week so I am not hopeful as there's still 8 million people to go and we're going by age group and not last vaxx date which was june 3 for me.

I just hope Omicron isn't going to spread any faster than it already is.

Slow booster shot rollout cost lives, experts say
 
Windigo said:
I am vaccinated, but still unable to get a booster because the Netherlands is the slowest country in Europe with boosters..

They say everyone should get one in January, but the system has been so overloaded with requests that booking an appointment has been impossible for the entire last week so I am not hopeful as there's still 8 million people to go and we're going by age group and not last vaxx date which was june 3 for me.

I just hope Omicron isn't going to spread any faster than it already is.

Slow booster shot rollout cost lives, experts say
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Here it is just done by the date of your second vax. I got mine at a local pharmacy (chemist). I made an appointment online in the morning, and got the shot that afternoon.

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Windigo said:
I am vaccinated, but still unable to get a booster because the Netherlands is the slowest country in Europe with boosters..

They say everyone should get one in January, but the system has been so overloaded with requests that booking an appointment has been impossible for the entire last week so I am not hopeful as there's still 8 million people to go and we're going by age group and not last vaxx date which was june 3 for me.

I just hope Omicron isn't going to spread any faster than it already is.

Slow booster shot rollout cost lives, experts say
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Vaccinations are still mostly effective and like I keep mentioning and talking about it's your B cells and T cells that do the actual fighting against hospitalization and death. The antibodies in the vaccines from the jab are just the gatekeepers trying to keep the virus out but it's the B and T cells that keep you alive. A booster will help a little, but not much in reality.

Secondly, Omicron looks like it's about 10 times less deadly, so it may be a good thing and it's more than likely the dominant strain in the Netherlands anyway considering it doubles every 2 days and it's been in your country since November some time. If omicron is the strain I think it is and could stop this pandemic in it's tracks, then your better off with omicron because Delta had some muscle.

The link, well, sure, give another reason to frighten people. Mainstream news is beginning to look like hall monitors in my old school days and the reason I don't watch any. Give them a little power and it goes to their heads, quite an incestuous business now imo.
 
The new 'word' for covid is endemic, meaning it is soon to be normal and here all the time. There will no longer be waves, but just a continuing condition of covid in our lives, unrelenting and without pause. Oh boy, what fun.

Who do we thank for such a lovely time?
 
flyinglentris said:
The new 'word' for covid is endemic, meaning it is soon to be normal and here all the time. There will no longer be waves, but just a continuing condition of covid in our lives, unrelenting and without pause. Oh boy, what fun.

Who do we thank for such a lovely time?
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Along with about 100 rhino virus' there are 4 corona virus' that cause what we call the "common cold". In time this virus will weaken and our population will gain better immunity so that we have 5 corona virus' causing colds. How long this transformation into the endemic stage lasts is anyone's guess.
 
Now I hear talk of a possible FOURTH booster shot!! Do we have to keep on doing this every time that a new strain comes out?!! This is ridiculous!!!! Like this is NEVER gonna go away!!!! I think that infected people are STILL being allowed into the country!!! A family that I know, two of the boys were in school where an infected child came to school & upset the whole class by being allowed in. Now the 2 boys & their fam, as well as everyone else is in quarentine per order of the health dept!!!!! They can't have any visiters & they can't leave their houses until quarentine is completed!!!! 😡
 
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flyinglentris said:
The new 'word' for covid is endemic, meaning it is soon to be normal and here all the time. There will no longer be waves, but just a continuing condition of covid in our lives, unrelenting and without pause. Oh boy, what fun.

Who do we thank for such a lovely time?
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That is the hope and just another corona virus to deal with every year. Before that happens Omicron is going to make Delta look like a ripple in a pond as far as case counts are concerned, it's definitely going to cause havoc. Hopefully and so far it appears that hospitalizations and death are not following the same trend, not even close, which is a classic proxy of a pandemic to then become endemic. We'll know within a few weeks if this is the case, but it looks like it's going this way.
 
garlichead said:
That is the hope and just another corona virus to deal with every year. Before that happens Omicron is going to make Delta look like a ripple in a pond as far as case counts are concerned, it's definitely going to cause havoc. Hopefully and so far it appears that hospitalizations and death are not following the same trend, not even close, which is a classic proxy of a pandemic to then become endemic. We'll know within a few weeks if this is the case, but it looks like it's going this way.
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Looks like we are forced to just keep on thanking the brainchild that keeps on letting these infected people through the door, instead of holding them in quarentine & sending them back to where they came from!! It is just not fair that they are allowed to come into the coiuntry, knowing that they are dangerously sick & could cause superspreaders to others who are vaccinated!!! 😱 😱
 
GadgetGuy said:
Looks like we are forced to just keep on thanking the brainchild that keeps on letting these infected people through the door, instead of holding them in quarentine & sending them back to where they came from!! It is just not fair that they are allowed to come into the coiuntry, knowing that they are dangerously sick & could cause superspreaders to others who are vaccinated!!! 😱 😱
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It's just not feasible to stop everyone. Anyone that is tested and tests positive I'm pretty sure they are not allowed to just go freely, not sure where you heard that, but I can assure you that is not normal or a policy in any country. People are struggling everywhere especially people stuck in places they're trying to leave from and the People from around the world trying to leave south Africa after the smart people though banning travel from Africa was a good idea with many families, children and people stuck with no direction. We need compassion right now and not division imo
 
GadgetGuy said:
Looks like we are forced to just keep on thanking the brainchild that keeps on letting these infected people through the door, instead of holding them in quarentine & sending them back to where they came from!! It is just not fair that they are allowed to come into the coiuntry, knowing that they are dangerously sick & could cause superspreaders to others who are vaccinated!!! 😱 😱
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As of 34 minutes ago France closed its boarder with Britain to control the influx of Omi. You should hear the privileged well off crying about how their Christmas holiday in the Alps has been ruined. These are the same people who would be screaming for the Channel tunnel to be shut if the French infection rate was much higher than ours and their skiing holiday wasn't at stake.
I subscribe to the 'best stay put' idea whilst those with data rather than prejudices work out the implications of this latest variant.
 
I just read that there are quite a number of professional footballers (soccer players) in the UK who aren´t vaccinated. Totally unbelievable.
I also hope that governments start treating those who have NOT been vaccinated the same way they treated smokers in the 90s: as pariahs.
So the non-vaccinated can´t go to public events, restaurants, bars, sports events, stores, shows, or anything else.
as they say in the bible: Sodom, for Gomorrah we die.
 
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