Of course they do. It's just that my grandma was never married to a woman.
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Of course they do. It's just that my grandma was never married to a woman.
How pessimistic and life-saturated messages here 
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Yes, we live in times of selfishness and indifference... but I'm a happy believer: a Lutheran
who has underwent a long period of religious search and internal investigation. I have confidence in man, humor and scientific progress with energy efficient inventions. I have children, too. It is problematic to raise children and look after them even in their adulthood but I love my kids unconditionally and I can honestly say that a child’s love for his or her parent is also wonderful, even if in everyday life you have to be a feeder, a wallet and a social and spiritual trash bin or support person. Our family has spent decades together at the countryside in the summer with up to four generations sharing the same summer cottage. A few of us are not in speaking terms and some have bought their own places but most of us are happy and share our lives in the city, too. We live near each other and go to places together. I couldn´t imagine my life without my family and my children.
Plain reason would urge not to bring children into this shitty world but in my mind biology, chance and emotion overcome. I generally love all children: even the ones that haven´t been brought up nicely: the ones who swear, steal and misbehave. That doesn´t mean that I especially want to be around children or play with Barbies or remote controlled cars. Children are the future - and the future might be bright despite current overpopulation and social disregard. There are eternal values and aspects of life. I don´t think it's blind faith. This said, I´m not a conservative nor a revolutionary and I support everyone´s right to decide on their own religion or philosophy, their life styles, family concepts, bodies and pregnancies. I see my husband taking our youngest to the woods to study butterflies and birds and I weep.
.Yes, we live in times of selfishness and indifference... but I'm a happy believer: a Lutheran
who has underwent a long period of religious search and internal investigation. I have confidence in man, humor and scientific progress with energy efficient inventions. I have children, too. It is problematic to raise children and look after them even in their adulthood but I love my kids unconditionally and I can honestly say that a child’s love for his or her parent is also wonderful, even if in everyday life you have to be a feeder, a wallet and a social and spiritual trash bin or support person. Our family has spent decades together at the countryside in the summer with up to four generations sharing the same summer cottage. A few of us are not in speaking terms and some have bought their own places but most of us are happy and share our lives in the city, too. We live near each other and go to places together. I couldn´t imagine my life without my family and my children.
Plain reason would urge not to bring children into this shitty world but in my mind biology, chance and emotion overcome. I generally love all children: even the ones that haven´t been brought up nicely: the ones who swear, steal and misbehave. That doesn´t mean that I especially want to be around children or play with Barbies or remote controlled cars. Children are the future - and the future might be bright despite current overpopulation and social disregard. There are eternal values and aspects of life. I don´t think it's blind faith. This said, I´m not a conservative nor a revolutionary and I support everyone´s right to decide on their own religion or philosophy, their life styles, family concepts, bodies and pregnancies. I see my husband taking our youngest to the woods to study butterflies and birds and I weep.
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How pessimistic and life-saturated messages here
Yes, we live in times of selfishness and indifference... but I'm a happy believer: a Lutheran
who has underwent a long period of religious search and internal investigation. I have confidence in man, humor and scientific progress with energy efficient inventions. I have children, too. It is problematic to raise children and look after them even in their adulthood but I love my kids unconditionally, and I can honestly say that a child’s love for his or her parent is also wonderful, even if in everyday life you have to be a feeder, a wallet, and a social and spiritual trash bin or support person. Our family has spent decades together at the countryside in the summer with up to four generations sharing the same summer cottage. A few of us are not in speaking terms and some have bought their own places but most of us are happy and share our lives in the city, too. We live near each other and go to places together. I couldn´t imagine my life without my family and my children.
Plain reason would urge not to bring children into this shitty world but in my mind biology, chance and emotion overcome. I generally love all children: even the ones that haven´t been brought up nicely: the ones who swear, steal and misbehave. That doesn´t mean that I especially want to be around children or play with Barbies or remote controlled cars. Children are the future - and the future might be bright despite current overpopulation and social disregard. There are eternal values and aspects of life. I don´t think it's blind faith. This said, I´m not a conservative nor a revolutionary and I support everyone´s right to decide on their own religion or philosophy, their life styles, family concepts, bodies and pregnancies. I see my husband taking our youngest to the woods to study butterflies and birds and I weep.
I'm a recovering Lutheran, myself. I was raised Lutheran, and was once an Elder in a Lutheran church. So, I know where you are coming from.
When I refer to "Evangelicals" in the US, I'm not necessarily referring to Christians -- just people who think that their own views are the same as the views of Jesus. These are people who pick and choose which of the Old Testament laws should be followed, and which ones can be ignored. These people fight for the unborn, but once the kid is born, they really don't care if he/she lives in poverty. They did their job as good Christians, and got that baby out of the womb alive. What happens from there on is their problem.
As for having children or not, people need to decide if they are really want them, and are committed to at least 18 years of responsibility for raising those children.
I often tell you couples to get a puppy before they have children. Like children, puppies/dogs are totally dependent on us for survival. If they can't handle raising a puppy, how are they going to handle raising a child? I gave the same advice when I was a church elder.
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I have four kids. I didn't really enjoy having kids at all but strangely I like being pregnant and giving birth (4 home births - no drugs). Fortunately for me, none of them have produced grandchildren. I dread the idea! I can't even bear kids in restaurants (not that I've been to one for ages).
One thing that really surprised me was finding out a lot of people don't like babies. Even a lot of people who have children didn't enjoy the baby phase of their children. I love babies and don't understand how people don't like them - the same way people who love dogs don't understand why I don't like them. I find it harder and harder to relate to children when they grow up. Babies are just so sweet.
Until I was 20 my life dream was marry a rich man and stay home with our four children. Nowadays I'm not sure if I would like that. Once I was sharing this with some of my older, female co workers, and they all said the same thing, you'll hate being a full time mom!
Until I was 20 my life dream was marry a rich man and stay home with our four children. Nowadays I'm not sure if I would like that. Once I was sharing this with some of my older, female co workers, and they all said the same thing, you'll hate being a full time mom!
It doesn't end at 18 years!
I agree - you are far too clever.
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As an atheist I have no problem with that. My Atheism is a conclusion I formed 50 yrs ago. I formed my conclusion using an open minded approach. Nothing in the last 49 yrs has altered my conclusion." How pessimistic and life-saturated messages here " realism can be frightening.
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Colic, for the first 9 month of my child's life we got about 3 hours of sleep. It was a living nightmare.
I don´t mind if my faith turns up to be a man-made neuroscientifical defect. I just enjoy the ride, experience supernatural feelings (without being diagnosed for mental illness) and wait for someone to give exhaustive answers after my spirit (sic!) has left the building.Yup, realism can be frightening.
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