Ukraine

caseydog said:
As an American, I would characterize FOX as having a "wink and a nudge" relationship with the extremists, including neo-nazi groups and white supremacists. They don't overtly support those groups, but are sometimes apologists to their cause. These groups are a loyal part of their audience base. You gotta' feed your base.

In relation to Ukraine, FOX editorial talking heads were on Putin's side, especially Tucker Carlson, until the invasion. Now they are backpedaling, and have taken the position that the invasion is a bad thing, and is the fault of Joe Biden's weakness, and that Putin wouldn't DARE invade Ukraine if Trump were still President.

MSNBC is the opposite, but not as good at it as FOX is. FOX has propaganda down to an art form. MSNBC is kind of a liberal FOX wannabe.

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Weird because my news feed recently showed that more democrats watch FOX than the do MSNBC or CNN.
 
I'm thinking about stocking my pantry with more flour, I think a 10 lb bag of AP and 5 lb bag of bread flour. Prices are going up inflationary anyway, but Ukraine and Russia supply a lot of wheat to the world and that's certainly being disrupted.
 
There should be a ban on any oil coming out of Russia now, today, this only fuels their invasion and the impact would surely cripple quickly the notion that this war can survive much longer. The cost of life now or in the future is not worth the immediate effects by not doing it. imo
 
garlichead said:
There should be a ban on any oil coming out of Russia now, today, this only fuels their invasion and the impact would surely cripple quickly the notion that this war can survive much longer. The cost of life now or in the future is not worth the immediate effects by not doing it. imo
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I would gladly pay more for fuel and other goods if it helped end this war.
 
While it´s heartbreaking watching a bunch of military thugs destroyoing what was once a democratic country, I take a certain sadistic pleasure knowing that Putin´s billionaire world is crumbling around him. That must be the worst thing ever: " hey, I´ve got 30 billion dollars I stole from my country,. and all I can do is buy blinis and vodka"
:D:D:D
 
karadekoolaid said:
While it´s heartbreaking watching a bunch of military thugs destroyoing what was once a democratic country, I take a certain sadistic pleasure knowing that Putin´s billionaire world is crumbling around him. That must be the worst thing ever: " hey, I´ve got 30 billion dollars I stole from my country,. and all I can do is buy blinis and vodka"
:D:D:D
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Putin has also spent years influencing and funding organisations and even governments in the west - most notably my own which is being exposed as a Russian toy. Now however he has burnt the whole thing, he will never be allowed to interfere again, so because of that he is all in here. Even if he succeeded in squashing Ukraine he will still have lost because he has torn down everything he built in doing it.
 
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