What did you eat or cook today (December 2024)?

JAS_OH1 said:
Not loving the aphids. We don't have them up here. They used to cover my roses and gardenias in Florida. I don't miss them (I do miss gardenias)!
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2 squirts of castille soap in a qt sprayer and fill with water takes care of them but they were bad! I go to get toms and my arm would be covered; no fun.
 
Brisket pizza with freshly shredded mozzarella and smoked gruyere with red onions.
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JAS_OH1 said:
Um, yes, but you realize that is genetic modification, right?

I mean they say it's not but it kinda is.
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It’s not really the same.

Genetic modification GMO is manipulation at a micro level altering the dna. It takes things that aren’t naturally compatible and forces them together or alters the genetic material to cause a mutation that exhibits desired traits it wouldn’t be able to naturally.

Cross breeding is taking two compatible sets of genetics (ie things that can naturally breed or pollinate with each other) and then selecting the ‘offsprings’ plant or animal traits you desire, then breeding on from that produce until you cement the characteristics you want. Like strong growth or good flavour.

eg those tomatoes that were really good I’ll keep the seeds and grow on from those but these ones were bitter so I won’t.

The former is the new ‘Frankenstein’ food that people are concerned about the consequences of that’s considered unnatural. The latter (cultivating domesticated or beneficial species by selective breeding) has been going on since the dawn of time.
 
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SandwichShortOfAPicnic said:
It’s not really the same.

Genetic modification GMO is manipulation at a micro level altering the dna. It takes things that aren’t naturally compatible and forces them together or alters the genetic material to cause a mutation that exhibits desired traits it wouldn’t be able to naturally.

Cross breeding is taking two compatible sets of genetics (ie things that can naturally breed or pollinate with each other) and then selecting the ‘offsprings’ plant or animal traits you desire, then breeding on from that produce until you cement the characteristics you want. Like strong growth or good flavour.

eg those tomatoes that were really good I’ll keep the seeds and grow on from those but these ones were bitter so I won’t.

The former is the new ‘Frankenstein’ food that people are concerned about the consequences of that’s considered unnatural. The latter (cultivating domesticated or beneficial species by selective breeding) has been going on since the dawn of time.
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I know. I understand this. Technically they aren't the same. And I know you didn't mean to be condescending with the lecture and I'm not ofended, but honestly, I'm actually very well-read and am aware of the scientific aspect. Also I used to raise and breed horses so I'm fully aware of genetically modifying through crossbreeding to achieve desired traits, but I'd not call it natural. Humans are choosing which animals will breed to achieve this and often it's done through artificial insemination.
 
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JAS_OH1 said:
I know. I understand this. Technically they aren't the same. And I know you didn't mean to be condescending with the lecture and I'm not ofended, but honestly, I'm actually very well-read and am aware of the scientific aspect. Also I used to raise and breed horses so I'm fully aware of genetically modifying through crossbreeding to achieve desired traits, but I'd not call it natural. Humans are choosing which animals will breed to achieve this and often it's done through artificial insemination.
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Sorry it very much sounded like you were saying there wasn’t a difference and there very much is.

Artificial insemination is a whole world away from genetically modified.

The term genetically modified was coined specifically to refer the laboratory alteration of DNA to artificially give it a new property.

Scientifically I wouldn’t muddy the waters by mixing those terms.
 
SandwichShortOfAPicnic said:
Sorry it very much sounded like you were saying there wasn’t a difference and there very much is.

Artificial insemination is a whole world away from genetically modified.

The term genetically modified was coined specifically to refer the laboratory alteration of DNA to artificially give it a new property.

Scientifically I wouldn’t muddy the waters by mixing those terms.
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But I obviously wasn't being scientific. I was being opinionated, which often has nothing to do with being technically correct.
 
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