How is the corona virus affecting you?

CNN just reporting 97% occupancy in hospital beds in Texas. Fauci saying you need to wear a mask. It's common sense isn't it?
And yet my wife and I havnt worn one ever. We are both pretty fit and able though, and somehow we aren't hit as bad as the states . Another 50 were released back into society without being tested here it's finally coming out how inept this coalition is. I feel pretty safe compared to the rest of the world.

Russ
 
The Velvet Curtain said:
As of today the infection rate in America is seven times that of Europe, and the EU are considering putting the US on a no fly list. European governments are preparing for an angry, ill considered economic response from your leader.
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Yeah, I've read about that. How much pull do big banks and corporations have over governments over there? I would imagine they are not to keen on a no-fly list for the US.

CD
 
caseydog said:
Yeah, I've read about that. How much pull do big banks and corporations have over governments over there? I would imagine they are not to keen on a no-fly list for the US.

CD
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Not as much as it appears to be in America. What the World doesn't need now is more trade wars. As I flippantly said a couple of pages back, how many strangers' lives is your burger worth? In Europe the bias is more towards keeping people alive and we'll fix the economy later. So a no fly list for the US is a looming necessity, the less than understanding response from Washington is an unwanted kick in everybody's face, just ask the Mid- West farmers how their Soya Bean business is going after somebody decided to lash out at China.


As an aside, In Europe the joke is that Trump has built more new miles of wall around the Whitehouse in three weeks than he has built on the Southern border in three years.
 
Talked to my former manager yesterday (last job was a nightmare, but she's brilliant) and both her and her daughter have tested positive, so their house (parents, three kids) are all on quarantine.

Right now, her symptoms are a high fever and a sore throat, but she has sarcoidosis (inflammatory lung condition), so that's an extra concern. She's in her mid-40's. I'm planning on checking in with her every day (via text), and we're hoping she's going to ride it out ok, but we'll see.

Checking the RT website, I can see where Ohio, after a few weeks in the <1 green zone has crept back into the >1 red zone, meaning the virus is back to infecting people at a rate high enough to sustain its growth. I guess we should have enjoyed those few weeks where it was petering out, because that's gone for a while. :(
 
Our government have now stopped the daily press conferences. I wonder where they got that idea from. It doesn't surprise me, as most of them have been embarrassing, with various untalented ministers trotting out much the same meaningless drivel. It's been increasingly clear that the scientific advisers that appear have been told pretty much to keep their opinions to themselves. One brave soul, Jonathan Van-Tam, the Deputy Chief Medical Officer, has "mysteriously" disappeared after he was critical of the odious Dominic Cummings and the notorious affair of the jaunts around the country.

We are now on the verge of major re-openings of shops, pubs and other places. The whole thing strikes me as a recipe for disaster. Despite the scientists reminding us that this is not a cue for normality to return, it's hard to imagine that there won't be a substantial proportion of the population who think that they can do just as they like.
 
Duck59 said:
Despite the scientists reminding us that this is not a cue for normality to return, it's hard to imagine that there won't be a substantial proportion of the population who think that they can do just as they like.
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Its already happening as far as I can see. I heard something on the TV last night which I thought I must have misheard - that 70% to 80% of people with the virus are asymptomatic. Can that be true?
 
Duck59 said:
We are now on the verge of major re-openings of shops, pubs and other places. The whole thing strikes me as a recipe for disaster. Despite the scientists reminding us that this is not a cue for normality to return, it's hard to imagine that there won't be a substantial proportion of the population who think that they can do just as they like.
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Given what has happened this week in other countries, the US in particular, who in their right mind could think that easing lockdown is a great idea? The news footage from Bournemouth beach yesterday was horrifying.
Morning Glory said:
Its already happening as far as I can see. I heard something on the TV last night which I thought I must have misheard - that 70% to 80% of people with the virus are asymptomatic. Can that be true?
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I've not heard that. I'm trying to extrapolate those figures into the theory of herd immunity. I may be some time...
 
epicuric said:
The news footage from Bournemouth beach yesterday was horrifying.
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I've suddenly got a real sense of doom. As has been said, going into lockdown is easier than coming out of it. Lockdown message is simple - stay home. No going out unless for essentials and then stay 2 metres apart.

Out of lockdown hasn't got a clear message at all - nor do the police have powers to deal with it. We are told to rely on 'common sense'. Yep - that's why all those people flocked to the coast and sat shoulder to shoulder. That's why the teen next door to me piles into a car with 4 of her mates (and has been doing for the last 4 weeks) - etc and so on.
 
I popped into a local Co-op store this morning to get a few supplies. In the lobby (about 5m x 4m, with entrance and exit to the store, plus access to a Post Office) an AV tech was setting up a stand mounted 42" screen running a social distancing awareness video. I wondered how many people it would take, socially distanced, standing watching the video before it became impossible to enter or leave the store or Post Office whilst maintaining social distance. I calculated about 2. WTF? Somebody in a position of responsibility actually signed this off?
 
Here in Thailand: "Officials of the Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) in charge of security have favoured the extension of the emergency decree for another month after its expiration at the end of this month."
 
Morning Glory said:
Its already happening as far as I can see. I heard something on the TV last night which I thought I must have misheard - that 70% to 80% of people with the virus are asymptomatic. Can that be true?
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One of the restaurants in Houston posted on social media that the employee that tested positive had worked the entire week before, having their temperature checked every day on entering work place, normal results, and had NO SYMPTOMS whatsoever. Since the restaurant voluntarily posted that, don't see why they would be lying, especially since other employees would know and squeal. Now, this could be a false positive test, as apparently there seem to be a LOT of those, but maybe there really aren't and people have the virus, but aren't getting sick. Who knows?

Right after all this started, Craig and I both had "something." I was just really tired and didn't feel good, and had a minor cough. Craig was exhausted, running a subnormal temp when we took it, had to use an instant read as no human thermometers could be found, so results are questionable (but it read normal with me) and had a bad cough that lasted for 2-1/2 to 3 weeks. My cough lasted sporadically for about 10 days, especially toward the end. He was taking as much cough/congestion medication as possible and it still wasn't controlling his cough. I took a couple of doses at first, then backed off because he needed it so much and it was in short supply. I had been making suggestions he needed to call and make an appointment to get tested, and was getting ready to insist because I didn't like the way the cough sounded when he finally started clearing up.

If it wasn't for COVID and Craig having similar but worse symptoms, I would have thought I just was having an allergy flare because I didn't feel sick, although didn't feel normal, but now I wonder.
 
The Croatian government implemented what Oxford University declared were the toughest restriction in the world. The graph will show you how wonderfully it worked. Then they opened the borders we are back to square one. NB restaurant were not opened or indoor bars etc
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Duck59 said:
Our government have now stopped the daily press conferences. I wonder where they got that idea from. It doesn't surprise me, as most of them have been embarrassing, with various untalented ministers trotting out much the same meaningless drivel. It's been increasingly clear that the scientific advisers that appear have been told pretty much to keep their opinions to themselves. One brave soul, Jonathan Van-Tam, the Deputy Chief Medical Officer, has "mysteriously" disappeared after he was critical of the odious Dominic Cummings and the notorious affair of the jaunts around the country.
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The US Coronavirus Task Force has not held a press conference in weeks. Worse, the top scientists on the task force have not spoken to the president in at least two weeks.

CD
 
As a rough rule of thumb (as it varied state-to-state), the US reopened just before Memorial Day (25 May this year). Our state had a transmission rate of about .8, so well on the decline. The majority of other states were seeing similar falling transmission rates. Memorial Day is a huge "start of summer" holiday here, and I'm sure there was a rush to get reopened in anticipation of that. Ohio, for example, reopened sit-down restaurants on the 21st, enough time to get restaurants into compliance for social distancing, etc.

A month later, here we are. The transmission grid has completely flipped, with more states in the red now, and it looks like we've set ourselves back to mid-April with this. Hospitals in some cities are filling up again.

Britain, we are your future.

Watching the news last night, talking to one set of folks on the beach in Florida, in their 20's, and they just laughed and said, "Yeah, you know, what're you gonna do? You can't stay home!"

Listening to a news story this morning, much the same. They were talking about universities preparing to welcome students back for the Fall term, and one young man, and I think he was an RA or a fraternity rep, said, "Yeah, I can't really see having a party with masks, or social distancing, or someone at the door making sure people are wearing masks. You just have to let the chips fall where they may." Paraphrasing, of course, but that's the gist of it.

I think what continues to befuddle me is this attitude, both with wearing masks and with going out, that whatever risks are being taken affect just that one person. There seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding of why we wear masks and why, just because you're 22 and much less likely to experience severe symptoms or death, you have to be careful about socializing.

With masks, I'm still hearing/reading, "But they don't filter anything out!," and with younger people, they're saying, "Well, my chances are good, so I'm taking the odds."

Masks just slow the droplets you may be expelling, it's not 100%, but it's pretty effective at slowing the transmission. It's not about keeping you from getting sick, it's about keeping you from getting others sick. How many effing times does this need to be said? I'm about ready to advocate stapling masks directly to some people's faces so they get the damn message.

And if you're young and healthy and good-looking and all that...congrats, the world is your oyster. Everyone loves you and you're immortal (as far as you think). But, you go out, pick up the virus, don't have symptoms, or maybe you do have mild ones, then go and visit the grandfolks, and...now they're infected and fighting for their live. See past your own damn nose for a change!

Now I'm just ranting. Probably because I just came from Kroger, where the few people in a mask decided to wear them like fashionable neckerchiefs. 😒
 
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