How is the corona virus affecting you?

As a rough rule of thumb (as it varied state-to-state), the US reopened just before Memorial Day (25 May this year). Our state had a transmission rate of about .8, so well on the decline. The majority of other states were seeing similar falling transmission rates. Memorial Day is a huge "start of summer" holiday here, and I'm sure there was a rush to get reopened in anticipation of that. Ohio, for example, reopened sit-down restaurants on the 21st, enough time to get restaurants into compliance for social distancing, etc.

A month later, here we are. The transmission grid has completely flipped, with more states in the red now, and it looks like we've set ourselves back to mid-April with this. Hospitals in some cities are filling up again.

Britain, we are your future.

Watching the news last night, talking to one set of folks on the beach in Florida, in their 20's, and they just laughed and said, "Yeah, you know, what're you gonna do? You can't stay home!"

Listening to a news story this morning, much the same. They were talking about universities preparing to welcome students back for the Fall term, and one young man, and I think he was an RA or a fraternity rep, said, "Yeah, I can't really see having a party with masks, or social distancing, or someone at the door making sure people are wearing masks. You just have to let the chips fall where they may." Paraphrasing, of course, but that's the gist of it.

I think what continues to befuddle me is this attitude, both with wearing masks and with going out, that whatever risks are being taken affect just that one person. There seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding of why we wear masks and why, just because you're 22 and much less likely to experience severe symptoms or death, you have to be careful about socializing.

With masks, I'm still hearing/reading, "But they don't filter anything out!," and with younger people, they're saying, "Well, my chances are good, so I'm taking the odds."

Masks just slow the droplets you may be expelling, it's not 100%, but it's pretty effective at slowing the transmission. It's not about keeping you from getting sick, it's about keeping you from getting others sick. How many effing times does this need to be said? I'm about ready to advocate stapling masks directly to some people's faces so they get the damn message.

And if you're young and healthy and good-looking and all that...congrats, the world is your oyster. Everyone loves you and you're immortal (as far as you think). But, you go out, pick up the virus, don't have symptoms, or maybe you do have mild ones, then go and visit the grandfolks, and...now they're infected and fighting for their live. See past your own damn nose for a change!

Now I'm just ranting. Probably because I just came from Kroger, where the few people in a mask decided to wear them like fashionable neckerchiefs. 😒

I'm with you on the rant.
 
In BCV (Before Covid Virus) times, I did a lot of work in New York. But now, even if I get an assignment in NY, I can't take it. NY, NJ and CT have announced, effective midnight tonight, anyone coming into those three states from a High Covid-19 state must do a 14-day quarantine. That means Texas.

This ought to get some panties in a wad.

CD
This past weekend, I visited Niagara Falls with my family. We had to do it the hard way, going through Ohio and Pennsylvania to get to New York, which is about 6 1/2 hours on the road. If Canada allowed us in the trip would have been 4 hours. But, it looks like we got there just in time. This would have scuttled the whole trip, obviously.

I will be looking at this picture for some time (I also got nighttime photos, but this one turned out beautifully):

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As a rough rule of thumb (as it varied state-to-state), the US reopened just before Memorial Day (25 May this year). Our state had a transmission rate of about .8, so well on the decline. The majority of other states were seeing similar falling transmission rates. Memorial Day is a huge "start of summer" holiday here, and I'm sure there was a rush to get reopened in anticipation of that. Ohio, for example, reopened sit-down restaurants on the 21st, enough time to get restaurants into compliance for social distancing, etc.

A month later, here we are. The transmission grid has completely flipped, with more states in the red now, and it looks like we've set ourselves back to mid-April with this. Hospitals in some cities are filling up again.

Britain, we are your future.

Watching the news last night, talking to one set of folks on the beach in Florida, in their 20's, and they just laughed and said, "Yeah, you know, what're you gonna do? You can't stay home!"

Listening to a news story this morning, much the same. They were talking about universities preparing to welcome students back for the Fall term, and one young man, and I think he was an RA or a fraternity rep, said, "Yeah, I can't really see having a party with masks, or social distancing, or someone at the door making sure people are wearing masks. You just have to let the chips fall where they may." Paraphrasing, of course, but that's the gist of it.

I think what continues to befuddle me is this attitude, both with wearing masks and with going out, that whatever risks are being taken affect just that one person. There seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding of why we wear masks and why, just because you're 22 and much less likely to experience severe symptoms or death, you have to be careful about socializing.

With masks, I'm still hearing/reading, "But they don't filter anything out!," and with younger people, they're saying, "Well, my chances are good, so I'm taking the odds."

Masks just slow the droplets you may be expelling, it's not 100%, but it's pretty effective at slowing the transmission. It's not about keeping you from getting sick, it's about keeping you from getting others sick. How many effing times does this need to be said? I'm about ready to advocate stapling masks directly to some people's faces so they get the damn message.

And if you're young and healthy and good-looking and all that...congrats, the world is your oyster. Everyone loves you and you're immortal (as far as you think). But, you go out, pick up the virus, don't have symptoms, or maybe you do have mild ones, then go and visit the grandfolks, and...now they're infected and fighting for their live. See past your own damn nose for a change!

Now I'm just ranting. Probably because I just came from Kroger, where the few people in a mask decided to wear them like fashionable neckerchiefs. 😒
100% spot on TastyReuben. It's starting to get to me every time I go out now, the idiotic behaviour of some people. We did a big fortnightly shop in Tesco the other day. Directional arrows on the floor clearly show a safe route to follow around the store. It's not rocket science - if you walk towards me and, being infected, you cough in my face I will become infected too. If you are walking behind me, and cough on my back I'm probably going to be OK. Probably 25% of people ignored the signs. Are they really that stupid, or are their balls so big that they refuse to be subjugated by simple rules?

I am now wondering if this is going to become one of those polarising, binary issues - Trump, Brexit etc. Those who follow sensible guidance for the benefit of fellow mankind, and those who choose the f*ck you, I'm doing my own thing and I don't care approach.

Sorry to continue the rant, but it's really starting to p*ss me off.
 
Same idiocy in the Co-op, with berks wandering up and down the (narrow) aisles. I had to stand still for about ten minutes while Mr Stupid and his idiot son went back and forth until they finally decided what bag of crisps they wanted. There was also an entire family taking up half the shop.

There's no point in saying anything - who knows what some nutter might do?
 
The Governor just suspended all elective surgeries in Harris (Houston), Dallas, Bexar (pronounced Bear - San Antonio) and Travis (Austin) Counties. 97-percent of ICU beds are full at some major hospitals.

BTW, If eating at home is unbearable, imagine getting your meals through an IV tube.

CD
 
This past weekend, I visited Niagara Falls with my family. We had to do it the hard way, going through Ohio and Pennsylvania to get to New York, which is about 6 1/2 hours on the road. If Canada allowed us in the trip would have been 4 hours. But, it looks like we got there just in time. This would have scuttled the whole trip, obviously.

I will be looking at this picture for some time (I also got nighttime photos, but this one turned out beautifully):

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I love Niagara Falls! I have been to the Canadian side about 1/2 a dozen times. From NE Ohio going through PA to NY it's about 4 hours. Shame that CA wouldn't let you in.

I really love Niagara-on-the-Lake, as well. It's beautiful, quiet and charming. That's a gorgeous photo.
 
I will be looking at this picture for some time (I also got nighttime photos, but this one turned out beautifully):
Very nice! Should I, as an Ohio boy who's also lived in NY and who loves to travel, be ashamed that I've never been to Niagara Falls? :)

The Governor just suspended all elective surgeries in Harris (Houston), Dallas, Bexar (pronounced Bear - San Antonio) and Travis (Austin) Counties. 97-percent of ICU beds are full at some major hospitals.
Does that mean your dad's surgery is off for now?
 
Very nice! Should I, as an Ohio boy who's also lived in NY and who loves to travel, be ashamed that I've never been to Niagara Falls?
Sorry, but: yes, you should be. :laugh: Having said that, with the new quarantine rules, you have extra time to plan for your trip. I went there in the winter, and it was both really cold and really cool.
 
Today it was announced that if we open the pubs on 1st July, it shall be on condition that the following practices are strictly observed.

• Controlling the number of patrons to ensure the venue does not get congested;
• Checking every customer and staff member’s temperature;
• Providing alcohol-based hand sanitising gel at all entrances and other areas as necessary;
• Ensuring groups are no bigger than five;
• Ensuring customers queuing to be seated maintain social distancing;
• Ensuring all tables are at least 2 metres apart or are partitioned;
• Ensuring seats are at least one metre apart;
• Ensuring all venues are properly ventilated;
• Only eating and drinking is allowed;
• Beverages can only be served individually, and shared jugs or ice buckets are prohibited;
• Serving staff are required to wear a mask or face shield at all times;
• Stage or performance area must be partitioned, and audience must be at least 2 metres away from the stage;
• Event comperes or speakers are required to wear a face shield at all times;
• Patrons are not allowed to be loud or walk around the venue if not necessary;
• If the sharing of food or beverages cannot be avoided, everyone at the table must be provided with an individual serving spoon or glass;
• Toilets must be cleaned every 30 to 60 minutes;
• All tables, chairs and frequently touched surfaces must be cleaned regularly;
• No sports matches or competitions that will attract large groups of people are allowed;
• No video gaming or pub games like pool and darts will be allowed;
• Social distancing measures must be observed in smoking areas;
• No service personnel or public relations representatives are allowed to sit with customers.
This is theoretically how every restaurant is supposed to do things over here. Some places are more diligent than others, from place to place and from state to state. Enforcement of these rules is tricky, at least over here. I know of at least 2 cases where someone was told to wear a mask, and the person who told them was shot. I'm not proud to say that one of those cases was 65 miles from where I live:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...ause-he-wouldnt-let-woman-store-without-mask/

A man shot a Waffle House cook after being told he needed a face mask to get served, police say
 
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Does that mean your dad's surgery is off for now?

I am trying to figure that out, along with my sister. I have read the actual Executive Order, and it just says "hospitals." But, not sure how that effects "surgical centers" like the one doing my dad's eye surgeries. They are outpatient only, and have no hospital beds.

My sister is at work at Houston Northwest Medical Center right now, and she is surely checking it out. Her hospital is definitely effected, so she may not be working in two weeks -- or working a limited schedule in the ER, like before.

CD
 
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