Italian heros/subs/grinders/hoagies et al

[TastyReuben]

I just read an article that stated pepperoni actually originated in the US from Italian Americans and was adopted by other countries later.

Yes…I think pepperoni means something like “little pepper” in Italy. Something like that.

That’s another good point for SandwichShortOfAPicnic - when Americans say “Italian,” we may mean Italian (from Italy), Italian-American (from Americans of Italian descent) or…just anything that seems like it ought to be part of Italian culture somehow.

 

[SandwichShortOfAPicnic]

Well they basically stated it's the same as salami but skinny, so...

But it’s so not! Well at least it’s not here. It’s denser, chewier, thicker cut and spicier. Salami really mild in comparison. I’d say pepperoni is closer the chorizo.

 

[TastyReuben]

Well they basically stated it's the same as salami but skinny, so...

Except in the case of sandwich-sized pepperoni (which I can get at Kroger and it’s labeled as such).

SandwichShortOfAPicnic - you should just move from the booze onto the pills and this point.

 

[JAS_OH1]

Yes…I think pepperoni means something like “little pepper” in Italy. Something like that.

That’s another good point for SandwichShortOfAPicnic - when Americans say “Italian,” we may mean Italian (from Italy), Italian-American (from Americans of Italian descent) or…just anything that seems like it ought to be part of Italian culture somehow.

Yes, and salami isn't called salami over there, either.

Or as we called people from Italy when I lived in NW Florida, "Eye-talian". My DH thinks that's funny as all get out when we go down there and visit friends and family.

Yes, and like Italian dressing isn't from Italy.

 

[TastyReuben]

But it’s so not! Well at least it’s not here. It’s denser, chewier, thicker cut and spicier.

But it’s still considered a type of salami (at least here, anyway).

 

[JAS_OH1]

But it’s so not! Well at least it’s not here. It’s denser, chewier, thicker cut and spicier. Salami really mild in comparison. I’d say pepperoni is closer the chorizo.

Yeah, I wouldn't know, since it wasn't something I ate growing up and don't enjoy now (except for cooked pepperoni on a pizza).

Okay have we done enough damage to poor msmofet's sandwich thread?

 

[SandwichShortOfAPicnic]

Yes…I think pepperoni means something like “little pepper” in Italy. Something like that.

That’s another good point for SandwichShortOfAPicnic - when Americans say “Italian,” we may mean Italian (from Italy), Italian-American (from Americans of Italian descent) or…just anything that seems like it ought to be part of Italian culture somehow.

I’m getting the impression a lot of things are called Italian if there’s an Italian version of it? Which would make sense when you consider the dominant settlers.

But here every country has their own version of a type of charcuterie so the precis always includes the country and type of meat. Although Italian is popular it’s no more popular than Spain, France or Germany.

 

[TastyReuben]

I’ve always thought of pepperoni as American 😂

Yes, it’s an American invention…but it’s Italian (inspired). Make sense?

 

[kaneohegirlinaz]

Vote: depends if I'm making a Meatball Sandwich on an Italian roll with Hot Peppers, Provolone cheese and just a touch of Marinara is what my American-Italian husband requests is served hot

Also a Cheesesteak is served warm as well. This was a joint in Tucson Arizona we frequented and I would request Rapini on the side.

A cold cut sandwich is what he calls a Hoagie

Served cold.
My DH is from a suburb of Philadelphia. The first time I ever had a real Italian sandwich was at Pudge's in Blue Bell, PA.
We got one Cheesesteak and one Italian Hoagie, both 20 inches and shared ... we had enough food leftover for another meal for us two.

 

[SandwichShortOfAPicnic]

Yes, it’s an American invention…but it’s Italian (inspired). Make sense?

Totally. As soon as you realise pizza is American not Italian everything makes sense 😂

 

[TastyReuben]

Totally. As soon as you realise pizza is American not Italian everything makes sense 😂

I believe you’ve just passed the US citizenship test.

 

[TastyReuben]

Uh-oh, kaneohegirlinaz has just lobbed meatballs and cheesesteaks into the fray!

 

[SandwichShortOfAPicnic]

Except in the case of sandwich-sized pepperoni (which I can get at Kroger and it’s labeled as such).

SandwichShortOfAPicnic - you should just move from the booze onto the pills and this point.

Had to let post surgery Mr SSOAP have those, the Baileys is nice though 😉

 

[JAS_OH1]

Totally. As soon as you realise pizza is American not Italian everything makes sense 😂

Our American style pizza is definitely all our own, but I am pretty sure that Neapolitan pizza was invented in Italy., as was Margherita. Unless the Food Network programs are nothing but lies!

 

[JAS_OH1]

Uh-oh, kaneohegirlinaz has just lobbed meatballs and cheesesteaks into the fray!

Thank goodness someone sensible came into this thread to break up the madness (or add to it)!